From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 14 16:07:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8AE1065689 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-149.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-149.bluehost.com [67.222.38.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07B9C8FC16 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:07:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 11061 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 2009 16:07:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 May 2009 16:07:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=fvp3G067dO21PTWxaI0YfletR1RmNLSmHUlXai/422Sk65A3TsZjHQ7ENo5splIPTxzIJk9MadWt3qzj53qWnDvO6JOx6WyBKmP+GmqAsmNa3OQW+4452ENilDK4qpek; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M4dTK-0004N7-Hq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 10:07:50 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 14 May 2009 10:03:25 -0600 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:03:25 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090514160325.GA26585@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200905132211.53066.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: How to move vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:07:53 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:38:30AM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/5/13 Mel Flynn : > > On Wednesday 13 May 2009 11:34:43 Michael Powell wrote: > > > >> Kind of like how those coming over from a > >> Linux environment all seem to want to change root's shell to bash, it > >> serves no purpose except foot-shooting. > > > > - csh cannot redirect stderr seperately from stdout > > - on pipes the exit status from the first command is the exit status of= the > > total command > > - will not expand matches without a user provided part, for *every* com= ponent > > of a path > > > > There's plenty of reasons not to use csh and if you know what you're do= ing, > > BSD lets you. And no, I don't want to type exec zsh when I'm finally lo= gged > > into the box that has a load of 100+. >=20 > I think the problem with that is he meant changing the root shell to > /usr/local/bin/bash. You're better off using /bin/sh if you want a > Bourne-type shell, or using toor with /usr/local/bin/bash. I've never understood the resistance to just use toor instead of root if one wants a nonstandard administrative shell. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous: "It is easier to measure something than to understand what you have measured." --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkoMQM0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWVTwCgoNNRDkSBvj86BUP0ynMs+UCw rKQAoPRYEe+63Yupm24L8atR+v7xhhpg =sD7Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0--