From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 31 05:29:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6E216A4CF for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:29:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vbook.fbsd.ru (swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru [195.214.233.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5B243D1F for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:29:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vova@vbook.fbsd.ru) Received: from vova by vbook.fbsd.ru with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DGsEt-0000Ii-FQ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:29:07 +0400 From: Vladimir Grebenschikov To: Kevin Oberman In-Reply-To: <20050330195501.671E55D07@ptavv.es.net> References: <20050330195501.671E55D07@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Organization: SWsoft Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:29:07 +0400 Message-Id: <1112246947.1106.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Sender: Vladimir Grebenschikov cc: freebsd gnome Subject: Re: end-user whines about 2.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: vova@fbsd.ru List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:29:15 -0000 =F7 =D3=D2, 30/03/2005 =D7 11:55 -0800, Kevin Oberman =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: > > From: "Jeremy Messenger" > > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:20:59 -0600 > > Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org > >=20 > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:14:11 -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > >=20 > > >>> o i can't seem to find a biff for the panel. inbox monitor > > >>> seems to have disappeared or something, and addtopanel offers > > >>> nothing obvious to replace it. > > >> This is documented in the GNOME 2.10 release notes. I'm now using > > >> mail/mail-notification as a replacement, but it is not as real-time = as > > >> the applet used to be. > > > > > > i can start and configure it, but nothing appears in the > > > panel. and with 500 msgs a day, popups i just don't need. > > > > > >>> o the wireless applet seems to have changed to some sort of > > >>> useless flashing pixmap of a screen. where did the signal > > >>> strength meter, an ever so useful device, go? > > >> It's a purple icon next to the flashing monitors. > > > > > > ack. 'cept the signal strength is not really readable, see > > > where i can not see how > > > it tells me the strength, according to whoppens when i click > > > it, is 66%. > > > > > > and how to get rid of those silly monitors? also, the > > > preferences/configure option seems not to work, "The interface > > > does not exist," when indeed ath0 does and shows on those > > > lovely flashing monitors. > > > > > >>> o i still have not figured out how to get my own separate > > >>> custom application menu back. see just to the right of the > > >>> main menu foot in > > >>> > > >>> for my 2.8 panel section. sorry, i could not figure out how > > >>> to take a screenshot while the hierarchic menu folder was > > >>> open. > > >> I just create custom drawers, and that works fine in GNOME 2.10. > > > > > > maybe if you don't have a complex hierarchy of them and need to > > > label each drawer so you know what you're doing. and they're > > > screen sticky! > > > > > >>> and totem now smacks me when i try to play a vcd, whining > > >>> "OSS device "/dev/dsp" is already in use by another program." > > >>> when nothing is using sound that i can see. > > >>> # lsof> grep -i dsp > > >>> # lsof /dev/dsp > > >> Check your gstreamer audio settings. > > > > > > uh, against what? and what should they be? current settings > > > are in . > > > > > > whine whine whine :-) > >=20 > > Almost all of your 'whine' should be take up to GNOME developers. >=20 > Agreed. many of the changes made in 2.10 are IMHO poor choices. I have > lost functionality and seen continued movement to forcing all Gnome > users to do things the same way.=20 >=20 > For Randy, I'd suggest that he install gkrellm. It does eat up more > screen space, but provides much more useful displays.=20 I am using it for long time. It is really nice. > The wireless plug-in shows signal strength.=20 Unfortunately that plugin does not handles exotic wiles interfaces out of the box (like ndis0 or iwi0). > Another provides xmms control and the > basic tool does biff. What's more it can monitor disk and file system > use, memory, swap, battery, and most everything else. It can also be > started as a daemon and run remotely. >=20 > The only Gnome monitoring applet I use is the CPU Frequency Scaling > Monitor. (I am working on powerd, so it's essential.) --=20 Vladimir B. Grebenchikov vova@fbsd.ru