From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 08:41:29 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E67F106564A for <freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org>; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars.engels@0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.67.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2EF8FC1C for <freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org>; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.67.217]) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE9B39DFE; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from i011-63.fin-nrw.de (i011-63.fin-nrw.de [193.109.238.130]) by 0x20.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:41:16 +0200 Message-ID: <20100628104116.4h3n0r77c44o0scc@0x20.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:41:16 +0200 From: Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> To: Juergen Lock <nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de> References: <20100623114141.GA4151@current.Sisis.de> <20100623141603.GC42847@e.0x20.net> <20100627164752.GA52062@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <20100627171129.GA55131@triton8.kn-bremen.de> In-Reply-To: <20100627171129.GA55131@triton8.kn-bremen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_6y2ivsipju4o"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Cc: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>, hselasky@c2i.net, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video capture cards for FreeBSD laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD <freebsd-mobile.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile>, <mailto:freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile>, <mailto:freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:41:29 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_6y2ivsipju4o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Juergen Lock <nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de>: > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 06:47:52PM +0200, Juergen Lock wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 04:16:04PM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: >> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 01:41:41PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> > > >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > I've Google'd around a bit but I don't see any real solution. My wife >> > > has a FreeBSD laptop with 8-REL and wants to watch TV from time to ti= me. >> > > Any solution via USB or PCMCIA cards? Or even a small network box whi= ch >> > > could be connected via LAN/WLAN by mplayer... >> > > >> > > Thanks in advance >> > >> > Hi Matthias, >> > >> > the "Freecom DVB-T USB Stick" works nicely with webcamd + vlc. >> >> That one no longer seems to be sold tho, or only at pretty high prices... >> If I look at e.g. >> >> =09http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=3Dvidext&xf=3D800_USB >> >> I find usb dvb-t tuners for as cheap as 9 eur tho I don't know which >> of those work with webcamd, but if you want to experiment and maybe use >> the 14-day return policy if one doesn't work... (or look up an usb tuner >> on sites like >> >> =09http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Device_Information >> >> , maybe ask on freenode irc #linuxtv, find out which linux driver it >> uses and check >> >> =09/usr/ports/multimedia/webcamd/work/webcamd-0.1.12/Makefile >> >> after `make extract' in /usr/ports/multimedia/webcamd to see if >> webcamd builds that driver, and hope it works too...) But how ever >> you try, don't forget to post your findings here! >> >> If you want hdtv in Germany you'll need dvb-s2 (if you have a >> satellite dish) or dvb-c (if you have cable, but remember often >> otherwise fta `private' channels are crypted on cable unless you >> stick to analog transmissions which I don't know for how much longer >> they'll be around and also you won't get hdtv that way), and dvb-c >> and dvb-s(2) tuners are more expensive than dvb-t ones tho the picture >> quality (bandwidth) also often is better than with dvb-t. Oh and >> the hdtv versions of the german `private' channels are `paytv' >> everywhere (i.e. crypted), even on satellite, the only fta hdtv >> chanels on Astra 19.2E atm are Das Erste, ZDF, arte, Anixe and >> Servus TV. (And EinsFestival HD but that one only plays test loops >> most of the time.) >> >> I use a PCTV 452e Sat HDTV Pro USB dvb-s2 tuner which works pretty well >> now with vdr (as well as kaffeine, mplayer, and szap-s2 with most any >> player, only vlc's builtin dvb support seems to be broken for this tuner >> but that I can live with.) >> >> If you want full pvr functionality (epg, timers, recordings, >> client/server network playback/streaming/webinterface, osd, teletext, >> multiple tuners... only using a remote may still be a problem) you >> can try mythtv from ports or my preliminary vdr ports (which still >> have loose ends but are very much functional at least for me tho >> a lot of `less important' plugins aren't ported yet, some manual >> tweaking may still be required and I don't know if anyone has tested >> xineliboutput's vdpau support on FreeBSD yet), see here: >> >> =09http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/dvb/ >> >> and the threads linked from there like: >> >> =09http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2010-June/011154= .html >> >> (most Linux users I know prefer vdr over mythtv. :) >> >> > Jun 23 16:13:25 root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x14aa product =20 >> 0x0225 bus uhub7 >> > Jun 23 16:13:25 kernel: ugen7.2: <vendor 0x14aa> at usbus7 >> > >> > There should also be some other Sticks with the same chip. >> > >> > The only issue I have is that it is also recognized as a ukbd, so I had >> > to remove the ukbd entries in /etc/devd.conf. >> >> That's probably the remote... (which other usb tuners often have extra >> code for in their drivers, but webcamd doesn't support those parts yet >> so you'd need to play with an extra receiver and lirc most likely if >> you want to use the remote.) Yes, probably the remote. It used to be recognized as a uhid device. =20 raaf has written a little tool to use the remote: http://raaf.atspace.org/dvbusb/ Scroll down to "dvbremote" there. Perhaps it is also usable with other DVB-T devices. >> Oh and if any u.s. people are still reading, vdr seems to support atsc >> now too, tho I dunno if anyone tried that with webcamd yet. > Oh and btw I was watching the soccer worldcup in 720p hd today using vdr > and xine on FreeBSD, Germany won 4-1 against England... Yeah, I watched it in a club and we had a lot of fun! :) In the evening I watched Argentina vs. Mexico in the backyard using my =20 DVB-T device. Thanks to the vuvuzelas I found out, that there seems to be a buffer =20 problem in the driver. Every n seconds the sound stops for a short =20 time and theres a little distortion in the picture. Hans: Do you know where I could look in the code? The device can be =20 found here: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices#WideView.2FYakumo.2F= Hama.2FTyphoon.2FYuan_Boxes_and_Pens (Freecom DVB-T USB Stick (25451 =20 rev3)) --=_6y2ivsipju4o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkwoYCwACgkQKc512sD3afgG0ACfaunYxdRVkaHXkBE8/xUvx7Xn FtMAnAg2pOqDjNs5UuYsPp+FHsIvYCPi =97sO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_6y2ivsipju4o--