From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Feb 4 7:48:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B706537B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105D643FA7 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:48:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA30828; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:48:52 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: pippo@bellnet.ca, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: portupgrading problems Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:48:52 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030204093227.00b80788@mail.host45.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030204093227.00b80788@mail.host45.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200302040748.52149.kstewart@owt.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday 04 February 2003 07:00 am, pippo@bellnet.ca wrote: > Some time ago I chose FreeBSD over all other *nix systems because I > found the system better managed, easier to administrate, better > supported and simpler to update and upgrade both the OS and the > programs - especially through portupgrade. > Several times I have encountered glitches in the update process; some > I managed to figure out what the problem was, some other I just had > to wait until the port was corrected then re-cvsup and portupgrade. > This, on 2 similar FBSD v.4.7 installations. > > Currently I have encountered problems with updating KDE3 (because > kdegames3 had some sort of problem - I don't have time for the games > anyway, but this messes up the update - and the audio/arts program > also had problems) and Openoffice 1.02. I think you have something else that is wrong. For example, if you check the cvs-repository, nothing has been modified on kdegames since it was updated to version 3.1 6 days ago. About 18 hours ago, I cvsuped ports-all, rebuilt INDEX like you are supposed to do after cvsuping, and then ran portupgrade -pufr qt This rebuilt all of the ports that depend on qt-3.1.1_2 and pretty much includes all of kde and arts. What version are you trying to upgrade kde from? The older versions basically require a package delete and fresh install. They also don't work with XFree86-3.3.6. You have to use version 4.x. If a port requires to much space, then you need to use the prebuilt packages. Kent > Open office seems to be a particular case as it requires 4Gb of space > for installation on *nix! I cannot think of another program that > seems to be so bloated for installation. Is there an insurmountable > problem here? I did find a port for FBSD to install the Ooo v.1.0.1 > but now to update - whammo! It seems to me that it is rare that one > needs the huge capacity disks that seem so current - I have 1 10gb > and 1 34Gb raid array, but they are used for different OS's and for > storage. It is impractical to have to re-organize your entire system > just for 1 program. :(( > > If the port is faulty and is uploaded to the port site, then the > downloaded port sits in the machine and then you have to figure out > what went wrong. What is annoying is the enormous time it take to > reinstall stuff like KDE3 and Open office only to find that the > installation has failed and sometimes the old installarion is screwed > up... Fortunately, I have not committed to using FBSD and the *nix > program exclusively as, so far, I have found that there are still > nasty kinks in the gears that take away too much time from creative > productivity for maintenance > > Can someone explain the best way to deal with the updating process? > How to minimize updating problems? > Thanks in advance, > PJ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message