From nobody Mon May 31 19:40:24 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B14EBFEF6E for ; Mon, 31 May 2021 19:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from mail-oi1-x235.google.com (mail-oi1-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::235]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fv5HY2ySqz4nK6 for ; Mon, 31 May 2021 19:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by mail-oi1-x235.google.com with SMTP id j1so5464102oie.6 for ; Mon, 31 May 2021 12:40:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chen-org-nz.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=k3hiChZwp/Vt7P/cVUmmVBk8ohTemCUbvY2bsX3w8CY=; b=bivR7O7e9if4TRj7YnygntLi21heOkuyE3BX5UgzDa1qWkzZqkp9auCOhNqojagaqt 2L0g1PTpdqLzG62K4vkLJb+yFdlKD9tKSGP8tP/pFY2uZXSXM98kQNPVVle69vNbpuj4 dt+zjKDAOMbktriYv7wFHkaBi0Izk54mmZooSDaUhtrkcnFCrvNEySLvAM3Ih2gM8efo dfZirxzAGwZZjUcGsphHnffzMumVG5JGpAO5jprB4oh/0rGLCvPAlKbsNvZ+vwIRHidI DHiJVbYEKq17mSo7IiFmUz/1Zzi4/72HzSx2F+SYBgxyBaBIIDOoI3WCz+aoIE8QcZ5i K8Vg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=k3hiChZwp/Vt7P/cVUmmVBk8ohTemCUbvY2bsX3w8CY=; b=GUaOtf2sWmZicIQo/kqXEWHnQS3RvvZZaVMAC9idFZCE/lUiW/iE05FsHa1MsVZ89A xp0LnkiEegCCEL3PC2s2trJOHr73kGolFtanjOWSgj0Pieh1S+lCb6l9Kt3l0ffgAgSK NEO/mgDHE8lx84ta/Zg5lpYLU+asT45cHATLRkKb/eN4LOu+SOgD9sqdHq5iHOwJaKCu LJS46+oZkp+fB97UHvsOjE3A2fgjUCCNoVdBHy77zgJSFYTNdPJFDcHEleO2ydszJRPP fowuDD8HOZIxBoglxWMnwjhzh4Q4YUM29d0Y1PabI86/KMHyuyzIOR3YdTPyEeNSRDd2 jcrA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ovI5s8thHOn5z+a2mNwhfO+cnIQpRZzN0nXRDBySDNR09xXSi WdsKwu3JCH+2zGq4jcVK/PzSZsVu7UAYrbtaL1zOG80ZugMdRg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzqYWfMzmISvWeM6XdcvystMRnH1X+aQTEk/8cNuvgCAUqB7pHBT/btm5n502T1v527Sw11uVhzi/88dOpIYLs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:a8f:: with SMTP id q15mr430486oij.35.1622490039923; Mon, 31 May 2021 12:40:39 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210530054658.CEA96D7F061@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org> <20210531085106.49D3BDF3166@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20210531085106.49D3BDF3166@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org> From: Jonathan Chen Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 07:40:24 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synth status and failure to install some packages To: Thomas Mueller Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fv5HY2ySqz4nK6 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, 31 May 2021 at 20:51, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > > On Sun, 30 May 2021 at 17:46, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > > > What is the current status of ports-mgmt/synth? > > > > It seems deprecated by what I see on this emailing list, but I see occasional updates when I update ports tree. > > > It's still my favourite ports-builder.. I'll keep using it until it > > stops working. > > > Jonathan Chen > > Synth is much faster than portmaster or portupgrade, but one serious downside is failure to install some packages that are built. > > I thought I didn't have devel/gperf, then later it occurred to me that synth might have hidden it in the repository without installing it. > > Earlier, I thought I didn't have ninja installed but later found it hidden in synth's repository. > > Is there any way to make synth install build dependencies? Gentoo Portage has "--with-bdeps=y". synth only upgrades existing packages that are on your system, and makes no assumptions about what the user wants. If you need a tool, you'll have to install it - at which point it becomes a first-class installed module (as opposed to those that can be auto-removed), and synth will upgrade them as required. This is useful for some of my systems where I don't need the build-tools, only the end-result package. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen