From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 5 5:54:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.centtech.com (moat.centtech.com [206.196.95.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D473537B405 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 05:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sprint.centtech.com (sprint.centtech.com [10.177.173.31]) by proxy.centtech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g25DseK25139; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:54:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from centtech.com (proton [10.177.173.77]) by sprint.centtech.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14543; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:54:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C84CE12.5FFBFF0C@centtech.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 07:54:26 -0600 From: Eric Anderson Reply-To: anderson@centtech.com Organization: Centaur Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miguel Mendez Cc: Cliff Sarginson , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hacker or cracker? (WAS: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/) References: <000c01c1c322$df0f22a0$0101a8c0@noc2> <20020304202541.U91555-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20020305015104.GA40292@core.usrlib.org> <20020305114625.GA11426@raggedclown.net> <20020305144726.B89475@energyhq.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heh, yea, it seems to me that crackers were those people that pirated softare and made cracks, hence crackers. Hackers were the people that, well, HACKed.. I see people referring to hackers as crackers and crackers as hackers.. I'm not sure when the confusion started, but about 10-15 years ago, there wasn't much media hype about this stuff.. Eric (If a hacker is a cracker's attacker, and the attacker's hacked cracker is not a hacker, then is a cracker the hacker's attacker?) Miguel Mendez wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 12:46:25PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > Moving this to chat: > > > What always bugs me is people who should know better referring to "crackers", > > as "hackers" :) > > Troll, but I'll bite :-) > > Cracker: salted cookie. > Hacker: what you meant as hacker. > > Cracker is nothing, just a stupid term made up by journalists and > clueless people like Suckomu Shimomura. ;-P > > And yes, I'll shut up now. > > Cheers, > -- > Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net > GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt > EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk > FreeBSD - The power to serve! > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology If at first you don't succeed, sky diving is probably not for you. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message