From owner-freebsd-security Tue Oct 6 19:31:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07196 for freebsd-security-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:31:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07183 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21264; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:30:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" cc: Wes Peters , Sean Kelly , Nate Williams , FreeBSD-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Java-based Crypto Decoder Ring gets NIST FIPS 140-1 certification (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981006210902.006e987c@207.227.119.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > >% can't be easily forged by an outsider who gets physical access to you > >% and your computer. > > Before addressing far-out scenarios, let's assume it's a ring. As long as it doesn't not fall off.... > > If it does, the finder would need to know where to use it. Say one is laying on the street. Despite the odds of finding a "good" receptical, lose the ring and you change the codes. > > > >This would pretty much need to be a biometric device of some sort that > >can measure stress *and* determine if the subject is living or dead. > >Probably still slightly beyond the state of the art, but not more than > >a few years out now. > > > >I personally prefer the urinalysis login method, but it can get pretty > >messy, and I'm told is much more embarassing for users with two Y > >chromosones. > > Retina scan maybe. Simple, less messy and what happens if it is 50 below and you just can't go. Not sure the ladies would like the p-test either. > > Also what happens if someone steals a sample. For the truely paranoid. 8-) You guys are missing the central fact: No, it's not perfect. Yes, it's far better than what we have today. On the other hand, maybe you guys are joking, and I'm being too serious? The thing _really is_ a ring, you can see it on their web site, and it' seems really cheap. I'm going to get more info ... ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message