From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 24 08:35:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD1D9671; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x231.google.com (mail-we0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6BE81764; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f177.google.com with SMTP id t61so4238673wes.8 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:35:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=K7HR4snn8j1S6dXwYndK032IsVbiztQKw5LScUzpWVQ=; b=jNNRrNfSkHt3l8ozoQM1VWfVf6W9xU2ms3RE4SUb5EPssXUrqCmE7aRWGwXwlXR3dd 5Ag3sxYfE92RGrxTDaJIXD/pUT61+/+InLY42g/0lhroLcbID91NxA/HfEG1Rckd18sx aEC7kiNjslXbaWHGXZfiiG75OGt25xe7YLBRwXVaBf1RKyrJx6NfxtjOhqpbxmLDiW+G pJ4cJUITqPQC278mTEBBFiVdMoSwPiI5tblkJzAJLoHaFl0zQi/wbRbzMEVqpXv8llWK GqvxUkGbQaw6rwLsJi7HaZARw06GNSduCcf1tS2TnvT504cxIdyqzgVqnW2UGD3qq+2Z mssg== X-Received: by 10.180.219.66 with SMTP id pm2mr12874839wic.60.1393230905374; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ithaqua.etoilebsd.net (ithaqua.etoilebsd.net. [37.59.37.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f1sm22713607wik.1.2014.02.24.00.35.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Feb 2014 00:35:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:35:02 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: David Chisnall Subject: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent Message-ID: <20140224083502.GY1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20140223211155.GS1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20140224073418.GX1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4mUolEm2oNas7DxE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Julio Merino , "current@freebsd.org Current" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:35:07 -0000 --4mUolEm2oNas7DxE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 08:32:13AM +0000, David Chisnall wrote: > On 24 Feb 2014, at 07:34, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >=20 > > Usual complains about sendmail in base until now has been: > > - complex configuration > > - long history of security concerns > > - no need for a full mta in base >=20 > The other complaint is that sendmail is only half of a useable MTA in bas= e. If you actually want to use it for anything other than local delivery, = then you need to turn on authentication, which means installing the saslaut= hd port and then recompiling sendmail from source. As soon as you do a fre= ebsd-update, email stops working and you need to recompile sendmail again, = meaning that you can't get binary security updates for one of the parts of = the system with the worst security record. >=20 > I would love to have something in the base system that can handle mail de= livery and authenticated relaying out of the box. OpenBSD now ships with o= smpd, which seems to work quite well for this, and if dma can as well then = I'm very much in favour of it. dma can exactly do that :) while being smaller than opensmtpd (which is very very nice as well, this is the one I use when I need a full smtp setup :)) regards, Bapt --4mUolEm2oNas7DxE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlMLBDYACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EyyqQCgqRXPl2WW6gfzrBH99wDumWpa w7sAn0GMXXLZhaw+ii1zGKFl9LRRkOaa =Erm/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4mUolEm2oNas7DxE--