From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 22 14:42:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.raditex.se (raditex.thorsen.se [193.14.93.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D8A15545 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaj@raditex.se) Received: from localhost (dialup163-1-50.swipnet.se [130.244.163.50]) by ns.raditex.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00585; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:41:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kaj@raditex.se) To: mwm@phone.net Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Rasmus Kaj Subject: Re: Musings about tracking FreeBSD... From: Rasmus Kaj In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:46:24 -0800 (PST)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) X-URL: http://www.e.kth.se/~kaj/ X-Phone: +46 (0)8 - 692 35 09 X-Attribution: Kaj X-Face: M9cR~WYav<"fu%MaslX0`43PAYY?uIsM8[#E(0\Xuy9rj>4gE\h3jm.7DD?]R8*^7T\o&vT U@[53Dwkuup4[0@gw#~kyu>`unH?kVj9CJa02(h>Ki\+i=%rn%sDf^KC.!?IHkKjMAbkd\jgmphp^' d|Q;OeXEAhq?ybGqOs1CHb6TJT42'C`Krnk61//AOfXtNjj/t'`5>Vw0QX!dKfOL$.f+S"LIuwR<;I Z0Qnnx(F^F]o@*V%TUtEV'1Z[TkOl^FFV9Z~A[b19%}uP*,huCU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <19990322234320S.kaj@raditex.se> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:43:20 +0100 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 43 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This thread begins to seem more religious than technical, but I'll run = the risk and throw in a few words anyway ... I'll quote rather briefly, since I will only reply to one of the points made. >>>>> "MM" =3D=3D Mike Meyer writes: MM> On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: >> If you have a local copy of /usr/src, simply use anoncvs, and cvs >> diff the pertinent bit of the system if you're really in need of >> the patch. The point in running -STABLE is that you're getting >> these little patches all the time, and you don't have to worry >> about applying them yourself. MM> Except - as I've just had explained a number of times in a variety = of MM> ways - you can't just install the patches. You're supposed to MM> reinstall the whole system. But you can! Just cvsup or get the patch from its author (which might be found randomly on the net), cd to the directories affected by the change you are interested in and make && make install. This will probably work and all is well. Just remember that IF it fails (to make or to produce a stable working system) the most probable reason for its failure is that the change were depending on some other change in a directory where you didn't make. Now you can either try to track down the dependencies or simply go to /usr/src (or wherever you keep it) and make buildworld && make installworld. So the only problem remaining is that if you choose to 'just install the patches' you might get into trouble by dependencies, but that is certainly true for other systems as well ... -- = Rasmus Kaj ---------------- rasmus@kaj.a.se - http://www.e.kth.se/~kaj/ \ Var glad! Det v=E4rsta har =E4nnu inte intr=E4ffat -Ph. Joh= nnson \--------------------------------------------- http://www.Raditex.se/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message