From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 20:11:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C29516A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:11:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FS.Denninger.Net (wsip-68-15-213-52.at.at.cox.net [68.15.213.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73D643D58 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:11:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karl@FS.Denninger.Net) Received: from fs.denninger.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by FS.Denninger.Net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id j0IKBoF4004955 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:11:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from karl@FS.Denninger.Net) Received: from fs.denninger.net [127.0.0.1] by Spamblock-sys; Tue Jan 18 14:11:50 2005 Received: (from karl@localhost) by FS.Denninger.Net (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id j0IKBopd004953 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:11:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20050118141150.E4429@Denninger.Net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:11:50 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4664.192.168.1.150.1106075671.squirrel@vipersystems.biz> <41ED6617.8060506@the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk> <4846.192.168.1.150.1106078097.squirrel@vipersystems.biz> <41ED6A83.4050807@the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <41ED6A83.4050807@the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk>; from Mike Woods on Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 07:58:59PM +0000 Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers X-Die-Spammers: Spammers cheerfully broiled for supper and served with ketchup! Subject: Re: Hardware Raid question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:11:51 -0000 On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 07:58:59PM +0000, Mike Woods wrote: > > Why does the os even detect the individual drives when the raid card made it a > > single drive and the os install is after the raid bios??? > > Because the chipset provides means to control both single disks and > arrays thus you get both, just the way that card chose to do things :) > > ------------- > Mike Woods > IT Technician Question on this... I noted that if I come up on the "fixit" disk, I can use atacontrol to 'create' a RAID1 array across two disks with ONLY the motherboard IDE controller! It also APPEARS to read/write to both disks - and if I disconnect one of them, intentionally "failing" it, it also appears to do the 'right thing' and keep running in degraded mode too! However, a "rebuild" (once one 'replaces' the dead disk) instantly returns and does nothing. Is it thus correct to conclude that the DRIVER abstracts the RAID1 function internally, and that the only thing you lose is the ability to replace/recopy the array? That is, in the event of a failure you could dump the remaining (good) disk, replace the bad, re-initialize the array and then copy it back - you'd lose "hot" rebuilds, but not the inherent protection of the mirroring. Am I missing something here? -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind