From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 16:56:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426821065677; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (merlin.alerce.com [64.62.142.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196B68FC1B; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8787A33C62; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F1333C5B; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id B896045451E; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:29:35 -0700 (PDT) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18522.35183.684254.289777@almost.alerce.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:29:35 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.1.50.1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Subject: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:56:30 -0000 Sahil Tandon writes: > Maxim Khitrov wrote: > > > I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive > > experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it > > was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. > > +1 for JC. The tech support and availability is unparalleled. Satisfied > customer for over three years. Seeing JC advertise a FreeBSD VPS product reminded me of an itch I've never been able to scratch. I know about jails at the simple end, and I know about VMware at the complicated end, but I've never been able to figure out what technology underlies the VPS offerings. I help out a friend on a Verio VPS that reports itself as FreeBSD 4.7 w/ a kernel config file named VKERN. There's some concept of a virtual root, a command named 'virtual' works a bit like sudo does for credentials, and there's otherwise an odd mix of "it's all my machine" and "it's a shared server". Is/was there some proprietary virtualization technology in the 4.x days? Is it still alive and kicking somewhere? Anyone have any insights into how these VPS products were built? Thanks, g.