From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 13 20:43:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D7F16A4CE; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:43:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE0F43D46; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:43:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6DKhBUU025077; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:43:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "M. Warner Losh" From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:33:42 MDT." <20040713.143342.17590193.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:43:11 +0200 Message-ID: <25076.1089751391@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: scottl@freebsd.org cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org cc: nate@root.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/kldunload kldunload.8 kldunload.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:43:15 -0000 In message <20040713.143342.17590193.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh" writes: >: >Frankly, I dislike your obstructionist attitudes towards newbus. >: >: Obstructionist ? That's a pretty harsh word for somebody who has >: wasted a couple of months trying to write a newbus-ified GEOM. > >It just seems that whenever the topic of newbus comes up, you don't >want to use it. Can we just say that having tried it out in a couple of the areas where people keep saying it should go, I appreciate the size of the gap between what newbus can today and what it needs to learn before the fully newbusified kernel can be a realistic dream. That is not obstructionist, that is being realistic. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.