From owner-freebsd-security Mon Oct 2 12:51:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu07.email.msn.com [207.46.181.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60BC37B502 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x86nts4 - 216.103.48.12 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:48:43 -0700 Message-ID: <036301c02caa$ebc17300$fd01a8c0@pacbell.net> From: "John Howie" To: "James Wyatt" , "Poul-Henning Kamp" Cc: "Brett Glass" , "Chris D . Faulhaber" , References: <21970.970515180@critter> Subject: Re: ftpd bug in FreeBSD through at least 3.4 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:56:56 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" To: "James Wyatt" Cc: "Brett Glass" ; "Chris D . Faulhaber" ; Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: Re: ftpd bug in FreeBSD through at least 3.4 > In message , Jam > es Wyatt writes: > >On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> In message <4.3.2.7.2.20001002124607.00df8150@localhost>, Brett Glass writes: > >> >At 12:35 PM 10/2/2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> > > >> >>3.4 is a dead branch, 2.x even more so. > >> > > >> >People are still running it 3.x, though. LOTS of people. > >> > >> Doesn't change the fact that it's a dead branch. > > > >Doesn't change the fact that "LOTS of people" are still running it... > >Geez, what a curt, rude, throw-your-hands-up answer. > > > >Are you saying that if we found a terrible bug (not this easy one) > >somewhere critical in 3.5.%d, we'd all have to immediatly upgrade? - Jy@ > > Yes, I am saying that. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And this is why Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, et al will NEVER beat a supported pay-for-use Operating System like Windows in the eyes of real-world business-critical system administrators and CIOs. Of course, all the egos, moaning, and bitching don't help either. Yours in disgust, John Howie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message