From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 28 23:10:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB069981 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa08-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8259C6 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa08-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id HBAr1l00c4XeM0101BAsWB; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:10:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:10:43 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking an extended-support O/S similar to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20130328231043.GA3666@ethic.thought.org> References: <20130328212955.GJ42080@manor.msen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130328212955.GJ42080@manor.msen.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:10:58 -0000 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 04:29:55PM -0500, Michael Wayne wrote: > I'm NOT trying to start a flame war here. I'm trying to find a > viable solution to a very frustrating, real problem. > > It's clear that FreeBSD has absolutely no interest in maintaining > an extended maintainence release version of the O/S. The high > resource commitment required to keep up with the current incessant > FreeBSD release process is beyond quite a number of people. I'm at > the point of admitting that FreeBSD is simply too much work for us > to continue to use. > > So, I'm wondering if anyone reading the list is aware of a viable > alternative. I'm seeking a BSD-based O/S that is designed to be > installed in a server environment and not ever get any feature > upgrades or require any noticable additional resources, only security > fixes for the O/S and ports. > > While this concept is clearly in total opposition to the philosophy > of the FreeBSD team, I'm hoping that some other, smaller project > might exist to fill this need. > > Any suggestions? Many, many [many] years ago I was in favor of a linux+bsd system. AFAIK, it had some support. you might scout it out. over a year ago I gave up my FBSD server which ran 7.3 and had my own DNS and web and mail server side. I tried to upgrade but there were too many ports that refused to build. nutshell, someone in the dallas-ft. worth area became my volunteer system admin. he used centOS-6.3 and fedora-17. the fedora-17 desktop kept crashing for hardware faults so I finally bought a refurb h.p. just off lease, put on ubuntu 12.04 LTS. The next version, 13.04 will be out in a few weeks. I now use godaddy.com. they do my DNS. I use mutt as my mailer. I've got fetchmail working "reasonably well" [smirk !] my web server is on the Centos 6.3. mail goes to godaddy... and when ubuntu's 13.04 long term support is here, I won't have to fmess with my desktop for THREE years! dunno anything about centos. I =do= know that while the Berkeley distros are the BEST, [in my biased opinion], linux is good-enough {tm} > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community.