From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 9 14:25:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4854E16A4DE for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6E343D53 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:25:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c59so333097pyc for ; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:25:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nHFCCgVWj9CPbUyB4C4ftIqW3j7JLG+vw52Vaxiz+cC30tWcEiy+jEgog5yxvVtVlIvvFA1Mtcr8UpQutSqjRIn0/Xx89+qLHUN1upLnPOi3BW4eo5acCpRdtWu477XAmUgZ3G6XbQh01rPPBleVcSGbjj9X28MWx85Go1ew+2g= Received: by 10.35.11.15 with SMTP id o15mr1632403pyi; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.33.7 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 07:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <768631270608090725j3b0fafbdo4d982ff8981564c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:25:51 -0400 From: "Ansar Mohammed" To: "Chris Shenton" In-Reply-To: <86hd0mdm86.fsf@Bacalao.shenton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44D79242.3050108@enternet.hu> <20060807231202.GA9552@epia2.farid-hajji.net> <86hd0mdm86.fsf@Bacalao.shenton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Nagy L?szl? , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:25:54 -0000 the EPIA's look nice but cost too much. For comparable performance you can retrofit an old netier XL2000 on ebay with a laptop hard drive. They are small, fanless and come with an AMD 400-450 Mhz proc. They usually go for about 10$ on ebay. You need to get an internal laptop IDE cable and a laptopn hard drive... they also support netboot! So yo dont really need the hard drive, On 8/9/06, Chris Shenton wrote: > > cpghost writes: > > > I'm using EPIA 5000 mini-ATX boards with 512 MB RAM, diskless booting > > from an NFS server. They load X.org and everything else on demand. > > Compared to local HDDs, there's a small performance hit when loading > > programs [and those boards are not the fastest, though 100% silent ;-)], > > but users here are happy enough with them. > > Ditto: I have one of these in my kitchen and like it -- no sysadm, > silent, etc. Not the fastest but mine is 3 years old. > > Only problem I've noticed is if Mozilla (or whatever) uses all the RAM > then X11 restarts, losing your sessions. Doesn't happen all the > time. One day I'll set up swap to run over the net. > > I really like the fact that I install stuff like Mozilla and other > software on one box (the server) and its immediately available around > the house on the rest of the boxes. The less sysadm I do the better. > > > >> - Do I need to use gigabit ethernet? Or is it enough to use a normal > 100 > >> Mbps wired network? I heard that there can be bandwidth problems when > >> using many terminals, but I do not have experience. > > > > For a diskless setup, 100 MB switched on the client side is enough; but > > you'd definitely prefer gigabit ethernet on the NFS server. > > I'm using switched 100Mbps ether but I only have the one diskless > client. I have a couple other clients mounting just some of the > filesystems over the net and would prefer GigE but it's not bad as it > is. > > I'd definitely do this diskless thing if I had 10-20 client terminals > to set up, like in an internet cafe or something. If they get wedged, > who cares: just power-cycle them. :-) > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >