From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 08:57:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CAA16A4CE for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:57:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gatekeeper.syskonnect.de (gatekeeper.syskonnect.de [213.144.13.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B4443D4C for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:57:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gheinig@syskonnect.de) Received: from syskonnect.de (skd.de [10.9.15.1])j078wYTl007453; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:58:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from syskonnect.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by syskonnect.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j078vtZx007531; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:57:55 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <41DE4F3D.8050509@syskonnect.de> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:58:37 +0100 From: Gerald Heinig User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Ryan References: <20050106115726.52478.qmail@web26608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050106115726.52478.qmail@web26608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:57:59 -0000 Hi Robert, the benchmark you cited is for uniprocessor systems only. It says nothing about multiprocessor performance, which is what FreeBSD is aiming for. It's comparing apples with oranges. Cheers, Gerald Robert Ryan wrote: > Fellow FreeBSD developers, > > I hate to say I told you but it was inevitable. > > Check this out: http://www.feyrer.de/NetBSD/gmcgarry/ > > As I predicted more than a year ago FreeBSD 5.3 has > finally lost its only advantage: performance. NetBSD > 2.0 shows that when you write code the right way and > end up with SOLUTIONS AND NOT HACKS you have a system > that works, and works well on all platforms. > > This is the consequence of a series of mistakes made > by the FreeBSD developers, the most important being > too arrogant and selfish to listen to Matt Dillon, the > man that warned you all about this. What did he get > in return? An expulsion from your gentlemen club. > > Poul-Henning Kamp has been using FreeBSD to push his > personal agenda, with completely useless features such > as GEOM and devfs, instead of concentrating on the > real > problem. The fact that your heavily mutexed system > doesn't work and never will. > > Jeff Roberson's ULE is still broken but don't worry, > Matt Dillon will be hacking a much better scheduler > for DragonFly that you can later borrow. > > Mike Smith warned you about committee-designed code > years ago, why don't you listen? Why do you insist on > this arrogant pose and on treating potential > contributors like pariahs? > > Why do you tolerate assholes like Dag-Erling and > Poul-Henning? > > I hope you can learn something from the NetBSD people > before it's too late for FreeBSD. They managed to do > much more with less resources. You should feel ashamed > of yourselves. > > Sincerely, > Robert > > PS: if I've offended anyone (yeah, I singled a few > out) > , prove me wrong, but spare me your insultedness. > It's become a pathetic hobby in -core.