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Date:      Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:06:42 +0200
From:      Nick Hibma <nick@van-laarhoven.org>
To:        current@freebsd.org, arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: tmux(1) in base
Message-ID:  <37B47737-E4A4-4CF3-9DAA-B0F0A4CC8901@van-laarhoven.org>
In-Reply-To: <20090922082344.GA64877@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk>
References:  <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <4AB7ED76.5010406@FreeBSD.org> <20090922082344.GA64877@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk>

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>> Rather than going down the road of putting everything that some  
>> subset
>> of our developer base thinks makes a system "usable" into the base I
>> would like to suggest that the effort be spent on improving the
>> installation tools such that making a system "usable" out of the box
>> is a matter of ticking off a few boxes at install time. That change
>> will benefit a whole lot more users than installing one more user  
>> land
>> tool into the base.
>
> I completely agree

While pondering a +1 for tmux in the base system, I realised that the  
first thing I install is bash and vim, but the existing tools are  
suitable for booting a system. Another argument against including it  
is compilation time: It takes more than 10 seconds to compile tmux (I  
expected it to be 1 source file to be compiled, silly me) on my  
Hamster-powered (tm) server, so it would add a  significant of  
overhead to buildworld.

Our package system is a tremendous asset, and wholeheartedly agree  
with Doug on this. So my vote is now a -1. Not that anyone cares.

Nick

P.S.: I've added 'tmux' to the default packages of our nanobsd image  
build system. Thanks for the suggestion!



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