From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 14 18:46:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F13316A4E2; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:46:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF7543D39; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:46:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.250]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6EIkacP097071; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i6EIkajc005695; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6EIkZmo005694; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:35 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Don Lewis Message-ID: <20040714184635.GB5503@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20040714180816.GA5503@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> <200407141839.i6EIcvce025710@gw.catspoiler.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200407141839.i6EIcvce025710@gw.catspoiler.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: phk@phk.freebsd.dk cc: stable@FreeBSD.org cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [TEST/REVIEW/HEADSUP] tty drivers mega-patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:46:37 -0000 On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 11:38:57AM -0700, Don Lewis wrote: > > > > Seriously: the origin of cua is mostly lost and systems like UUCP > > have already been removed from the source tree. Anybody new to > > FreeBSD and who hasn't been around since the epoch will completely > > fail to see why the device is called the way it is. > > I still use cu(1), though I don't know why the man page suggests using > the /dev/ttyXX device. The /etc/remote file uses the cua device. I use cu(1) too, but always with the -l option. Probably because I'm too lazy to setup a system name. Also: the fact that we have fingerfriendly shortcuts in /etc/remote as well as calling them that way is sufficient indication that cua* is just plain non-obvious and ackward to a lot of users. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net