From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 10 11:30:29 2000 From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 11:30:27 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320DE37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (Ipittythefoolthattrustsident@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA52989; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:30:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBAJUKf80999; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:30:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:30:20 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Nat Lanza Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation Message-ID: <20001210113020.B80274@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <14898.33404.356173.963351@guru.mired.org> <14898.31393.228926.763711@guru.mired.org> <200012100904.CAA27546@harmony.village.org> <3A336781.94E1646@newsguy.com> <14899.41809.754369.259894@guru.mired.org> <200012101557.KAA29588@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <14899.43958.622675.847234@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from magus@cs.cmu.edu on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:12:59PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: obrien@NUXI.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:12:59PM -0500, Nat Lanza wrote: > Your argument doesn't make much sense to me. It make total sense to me. > So if I compile sawfish myself I should install it in /usr/local, but if > I install a FreeBSD package for it, it should never go in /usr/local? Correct. > Third party software is third party software, no matter who compiled > and packaged it. No, the issue is one of "preciousness". In other words why backup software that I can just do `pkg_add' to get again? Or if I want to easily start from scratch and update all my FreeBSD Packages? ``rm -rf /usr/pkg'' followed by a bunch of ``pkg_add -r'' is way easy. Similarly to me not backing up /usr on a FreeBSD machine. Why bother as I have a Live-FS cdrom I can get a copy from. Nor many people backup the /home/ncvs directory (see PHK's message about this also in -current) as a simple CVSup will get you a new copy. Now scripts I wrote and software I went to the trouble to download, hacke the Makefiles to DRTR, etc.. have a *LOT* more effort put into getting them working. Thus they are more precious and are treated more dearly. Maybe even backed up. ;-) Thus there _are_ three classes of software in FreeBSD'ville. 1. lives in /usr/src and installed by `make world' 2. lives in /usr/ports and installed by `make install' or `pkg_add'. 3. locally written or obtained -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message