From owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Thu Jul 19 08:20:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D071050387 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C243E84321 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 827271050386; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: doc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702051050385 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 101948431C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C899157B0 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w6J8K71B042272 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:07 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w6J8K7w6042269 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:07 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 229859] Changes to 5.5 submitter/maintainer/committer approval for port submissions/updates Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:07 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: mat@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: doc@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:20:09 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D229859 --- Comment #6 from Mathieu Arnold --- (In reply to Kurt Jaeger from comment #5) > Do I understand you correctly that you suspect that it would undermine > the role of the maintainer, so that in the long run being a maintainer > would not be seen as a useful role ? The change you proposes creates a very bad precedent. It would mean that committers are somehow above other people, and can decide to do whatever th= ey want and the maintainer would have to check that the change they wanted to = make to the port that they maintain (and thus, know better than the committer) w= as actually made the way they wanted. The policy in place says that submissions can be linted by committers, and = this is because committers are supposed to know how to use the framework better = than contributors. It is their main reason we have committers, a small group of people who know how the framework works and make sure submissions conform w= ith its policies. But maintainers know their ports better than committers. If a committer want to change something that is not covered by the blanket approval, they can do like every other contributor, create a patch and open= a PR. I do this regularly, I then use the snoozetab firefox extension to rec= all the tab with that PR in two weeks, and then I go do something else while it stews. Then I either get the tab back a couple of weeks later, or get an e= mail from bugzilla if someone commented on the PR to say yes, no or whatever. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=