From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 14:55:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86ADDB26 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk) Received: from nm13-vm8.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (nm13-vm8.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com [106.10.149.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0667328B1 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [106.10.166.118] by nm13.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2013 14:54:54 -0000 Received: from [106.10.150.25] by tm7.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2013 14:54:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2013 14:54:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 959963.66943.bm@omp1026.mail.sg3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 11080 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Aug 2013 14:54:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com.hk; s=s1024; t=1375973693; bh=ugQIt0RVouAtB94Sp6YEc/sTZVmYufe3cyhH8Z6hohA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SSdLxuyjsCiVWX9pFdOOsvniiCBvm2w5uKgJwjRuUHXRNVyDQIsyeHz++I9tYXmhsmYdwkBasIcY37sxzKo3EydLWj3U2TkartDtpqxHmHfONCrG9WpQQRcwaCqE97GNS1sf+kSy9wFgMDiy40wgYpzY7UnLDqqw0KVHT9z7SyM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.hk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jnzrL6WUAe7cWk4yiK3O8DwIHvmeDTN8uM0LvwleZmY9xav8CC6XAuOdSKS971vwQgzyjuqEpVmPcww533rP4rim//YwHtrOTF4wEOCDLKjy9vdEEynh8qONP0Jgx5zPLGVi+OYoWzy07Z8nyxi/sY4Zl3jb835hFsxgiH1yMto=; X-YMail-OSG: .MwoYjQVM1mt8QqxP9sPx.fayCcxPn2XYcqCqg9ARV8rnZC hnGY7lMOxf0t5qpbVeQAHdI.rltsy8oo8P5ODRxRm9HLAXaR3KTSf77zAtXB 50s3Vl7RLTuIrZtDEsp6j7y8sl9Inipb4F9Tcpv.Gq7Ut8yjf3RoHjnW8SYx c6J5en2yxytl.iPVmKFAAVMX6uEtimz7XPj0j8l0zvzh2JvmmaAZiDxaTh_g 3ir0qyNyLgm7fuW4hb94X_bDutFedLOh8SNgu3e04TlxSVJy_eGVcNCAYXCj gH53WMVjpggewWVSXPtE0YxGwD7VsstKh2.r8p5ju4CxUBzZdXgm7nnFYysy vTEGNNL0P5no6FBGYsLttcFotT7JYtCmyXW8Hb37SRj3Knb8wC7UWBaygfOf PTIq.au8Vc4we7j_33apcaG.boJFa1ytDieGY5H4vdTeUlN0993G8OhUC5kE hYl_YsBAVg5E_bR8cYJTPesf0NojGqAG4XPdXcADEJdyOKt4gqQF7hpNddpf 4pUX.fEybvC6ST2eV450gnhr.714.BzmGyvqWHbbm8YsaPbRwyopShuE- Received: from [61.15.240.116] by web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 22:54:53 SGT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, SGVsbG8sCgpGcmVlQlNEIGlzIHNvIHBvd2VyZnVsIGFuZCBncmVhdC4KSSB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRvIGRpc2N1c3Mgc29tZSBpZGVhcyBvciB3aXNoIGxpc3Qgd2l0aCB5b3UgZ3V5czoKCjEpIFBlcmwgdmVyc2lvbiBjaGFuZ2Ugd2l0aGluIE1ham9yIHJlbGVhc2UKSWYgSSByZW1lbWJlcmVkIGNvcnJlY3RseSwgRnJlZUJTRCA5LjAgc2hpcHBlZCB3aXRoIHBlcmwgNS4xMiBwYWNrYWdlcyBpbiB0aGUgRFZELgpCdXQgaW4gRnJlZUJTRCA5LjEsIFBlcmwgNS4xNCBpcyBzaGlwcGVkLgoKSSB0aGluayBQZXJsIHYBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.152.567 References: Message-ID: <1375973693.6986.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 22:54:53 +0800 (SGT) From: Patrick Dung Subject: Discussing ideas or wish list To: freebsd hackers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Patrick Dung List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:55:03 -0000 Hello, FreeBSD is so powerful and great. I would like to discuss some ideas or wish list with you guys: 1) Perl version change within Major release If I remembered correctly, FreeBSD 9.0 shipped with perl 5.12 packages in the DVD. But in FreeBSD 9.1, Perl 5.14 is shipped. I think Perl version should be consistent in the FreeBSD 9 series. The change of Perl version may make user difficult to upgrade other perl packages due to dependency issues. I know pkgng should replaced the old package management tools in FreeBSD 10, I hope the situation would improve. 2) pkgng I think it has checksum checking on the files in the packages. Could pkgng detect the packages was being tampered? Or how can user authenticate that the package is build by FreeBSD? 3) FreeBSD's own systat Yes. there is bsdsar in the ports, but I would like to see improvement. For example, stat for multiple CPU, number of open files/context switches, one statistics file per day, etc... Thanks and regards, Patrick Dung