From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 19:18:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15120106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abitos@abitos.org) Received: from mail-ew0-f166.google.com (mail-ew0-f166.google.com [209.85.219.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EE38FC13 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abitos@abitos.org) Received: by ewy10 with SMTP id 10so47348ewy.43 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.47.71 with SMTP id s49mr995095web.72.1236279827182; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.101.161? (dslb-084-057-146-023.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.57.146.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm593147nfh.35.2009.03.05.11.03.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:03:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49B02211.1010809@abitos.org> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:03:45 +0100 From: Tobias Blersch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Fromme References: <200903050758.n257wod8088426@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200903050758.n257wod8088426@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spin down HDD after disk sync or before power off X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:18:11 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > > This is not true. Many hard disks don't like having to do an emergency > > shutdown as it affects the disk life time negatively. That's what > > happens if you poweroff the machine when the disks are still spinning. > > Can you point to any authoritative information (URL) about > that claim, such as vendor specs, white paper or similar? http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/28DCCB17E0EEC5A086256F4E006E2F5B Thats the specification for my notebooks hard drive. Section 6.6 Reliability gives data about how to power-off the disk. It also contains numbers of supported load/unloads and emergency unloads. Emergency unloads are invoked when the heads are still loaded and power fails. > The product supports a minimum of 600,000 normal load/unloads. > The drive supports a minimum of 20,000 emergency unloads. Tobias