Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:55:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org> Cc: FreeBSD Current <FreeBSD-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Plans for git Message-ID: <CANCZdfrxaQeWeuxkakA2BY38LYUbd-z3dVATuJMb-La1Wvfxvw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <13a965d9-ef02-f876-dd6c-aa872b66d114@nomadlogic.org> References: <202009201400.08KE0PBd028190@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <13a965d9-ef02-f876-dd6c-aa872b66d114@nomadlogic.org>
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On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 9:41 AM Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org> wrote: > > >> making quarterly reports about this for almost a years as well. We put > out > >> calls for people to help with the efforts about the same time. We have > >> tried at every step of the way to be open and honest that this was > going to > >> happen. > > All developer centric communications.... > > I would argue that quarterly reports are actually one of the few methods > of getting accurate information about the state of the project as a > non-insider. i've been following the progress of this work via the > quarterly status reports for years now, and as someone who is merely a > freebsd operator felt like i was more or less kept up to date on this > eventuality. > Plus the git list also gave status updates and it was public and mentioned in the reports. > honestly there has to be *some* responsibility of operators to at least > make an effort to keep up to date on the status of the various efforts > in such a large project. and as an outsider the idea that comms can > only happen on the mailing list isn't the greatest - how am i to know > that the idea of one person on the ML carries more weight than another, > or one persons opinion is the "official" stated opinion of the core group? > And to be honest, we'd planned on a final PR push once we had a confirmed date with enough lead time for people to adjust. Be all that as it may, I've finished up the first of a series of videos. This one talks about the fundamental differences between the two in 4 minutes. Future videos will delve into details of how it affects different segments of our community: users, developers, integrators, etc. https://youtu.be/Lx9lKr_M-DI if you want to take a look. The next one will be one on why (though it largely rehashes this thread and the blog post I made, again in about 4 minutes). Warner
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