Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 02:21:15 -0700 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "DAve" <dave.list@pixelhammer.com>, "FreeBSD Mailing List" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. Message-ID: <BMEDLGAENEKCJFGODFOCMEKOCFAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <483F9115.4010903@pixelhammer.com>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of DAve > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:31 PM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > >> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:51 PM > >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List > >> Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. > >> > >> > >> you probably didn't start with the earlier markup. back then, > >> '93-4, there was <BR>,<P>, <B>, and <EM>. i wrote a 2.2K-line > >> program to handle "hi" -> ``hi'' and a couple other things. > >> the code has evolved, of course, but still works. > >> > > > > Not the case. I use vi myself and I eschew background gifs and > > such. Web pages that I create are black text on a white back > > ground interspersed with images when needed. Period. No CSS > no frames, no > > nothing. If the content I put up isn't worth reading > > then no amount of formatting, font specification, animated > > images, and so forth is going to get people to look at it, > > is my feeling. > > I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you 100%. When we all > did HTML with BBedit and Textpad, people like Black, Tog, and Nielsen > kept everyone designing websites to best serve the content. Now it is > all about the sizzle, but there is rarely a steak. > Think about the generation we went to High School with. This is the generation that's signature movies were Risky Business, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, etc. Listening to Prince and Michael Jackson. Who's signature book was Madonna's SEX. These are the people who a decade later were buying SUV's and drinking coffee out of a Folgers can, who voted in George Bush, and who today are upside down on their ARM-financed homes. These are the consumers of the websites on the Internet today. No wonder most of the sites suck. Ted
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