Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:11:26 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com Cc: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, chris@calldei.com, "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, crh@outpost.co.nz Subject: Re: Jordan the Confused (Was: Jordan The Evil!) Message-ID: <199904160711.AAA89239@rah.star-gate.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:14:13 PDT." <19990415231413.A47332@ontario.mooseriver.com>
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Hi Josef, We do have applications programmers on board and companies that spend quite a bit of time writing applications . Perhaps a "user friendly environ" is what is needed in fact very much with what FreeBSD started as being. Just try to look at it from an outsider or application programmer point of view : do you want to put up with a lot of hazzle in having the code checked in or conductiong endless stupid debates. So be *extra* nice to applicaton programmers !! Amancio > On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 11:01:51PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > No one is stoping you from writing the tools needed to make FreeBSD a > > > "desktop-oriented" system. Just as no one is stoping you from writing a > > > FreeBSD emulator for Linux which, if I remember right, was you last > > > obsession. If you feel that there are things missing from FreeBSD you need > > > to go and build them. > > > > Actually, a better question is why are people not writing applications? > > Is it because they lack the programming skills, inefficient tools, > > targetted goals, etc... > > Finally an intelligent question. Thank you! > > I don't think it is a lack of programming skills. I have written both > device drivers and accounting packages. Let me tell you, a device driver is > a lot harder to write but accounting packages are just boring. I mean, how > many different ways can you think of to calculate a payroll check? > > I think we have the tools to do just about anything you could think of. I > think the problem is a lot of FreeBSD people want to be kernel hackers and > don't want to get their hands dirty with double-entry bookkeeping, > warehouse, order-entry, or assent management systems. There is just not a > lot of glory in the hacker world for these kinds of programs. > > > Josef > > -- > Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.1 > jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses > -- Amancio Hasty hasty@star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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