From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Dec 31 16:07:50 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1E11438D4B for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Volker.Lendecke@SerNet.DE) Received: from mail.SerNet.de (mail.sernet.de [IPv6:2a0a:a3c0:0:25::217:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5801471FD5 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Volker.Lendecke@SerNet.DE) Received: from intern.SerNet.DE by mail.SerNet.DE with esmtps (Exim 4.91 #2) for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org id 1ge06O-0001fV-Ql; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 17:07:40 +0100 Received: by intern.sernet.de id 1ge06O-0003CW-PV; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 17:07:40 +0100 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 17:07:38 +0100 From: Volker Lendecke To: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components Message-ID: <20181231160738.j4gow437liu7urjy@sernet.de> Reply-To: Volker.Lendecke@SerNet.DE References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5801471FD5 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of Volker.Lendecke@SerNet.DE designates 2a0a:a3c0:0:25::217:2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=Volker.Lendecke@SerNet.DE X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.34 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Volker.Lendecke@SerNet.DE]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.950,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SerNet.DE]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.904,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.SerNet.DE]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.18)[-0.176,0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:41955, ipnet:2a0a:a3c0::/44, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:07:50 -0000 On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 10:56:11PM -0800, Conrad Meyer wrote: > I don't think this is a viable long term plan even if Rust was ported > to all of our platforms (and I don't see that happening, either). Not being involved in FreeBSD but in Samba, I could see a migration of parts of Samba to Rust if it had a Rust->C translator. I think for FreeBSD base components similar arguments would apply. You could ship the C output for the platforms that don't have native Rust. Unfortunately the llvm C backend was cancelled a while ago. Volker