From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 21:20:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E2416A402 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 21:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5871213C489 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 21:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so1659534muf for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:20:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZHAZZvi05CdfaZfIBYEcRK8XwVTySSZVjr5oeksrHFDuF4c1aXQDwSYMZkIu3gMRmx0J9ei6L4dsoUmmMLuftDLc2B/gMEzN+lPjW4N+VkjVpiuMtrEjphAGVo/EgIbBS829zYzzmGTCpyIRyxsygmfh+f8+8sNjRw8LxljzhHM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nU9SPZexYXSDQm843YEIu2XHjOLPuYkeJ5B4az4yWBEQAjeLoNa0FX55KmJsUKgCerX0Pf2KjW7VPOnvgCisxM1/9cPOL4g+fU3REcdNyOhRKNs4D0EDXh6NT61WFX3LRHCx9ctgreghmmrdIQDq/XLYkIp4VbXLtU0g8PXAXbo= Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr5999146bue.1175980799939; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.104.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g1sm12315379muf.2007.04.07.14.19.58; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46180B68.1080000@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 23:21:44 +0200 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Paetzel References: <200704051719.l35HJ2ZW018555@lurza.secnetix.de> <461584D4.4010606@gmail.com> <200704061227.11036.danny@ricin.com> <4616686C.8000603@gmail.com> <20070407191154.GP68260@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <20070407191154.GP68260@tcbug.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what can i do with a 486? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 21:20:01 -0000 Josh Paetzel wrote: > deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: >> Danny Pansters wrote: >> >> CPUs, SCSIs removed, faith removed. >> Currently I don't have anything useful on the old board, such as a net card, >> but I'm planning to use it as a router, and I should be able to do VPN stuff. >> So I've left gif and tunnel and ppp. When I do have a NIC, I will enable some >> NIC support. >> I've never used a printer/parallel port or a serial port, but google images >> revealed that I have them, so I've left them there. >> I gather pty is for su's. Why do i need md? >> Well, if a standard 6.2 installation doesn't use 4.x or 5.x binaries by >> default, like 3.4 binaries, then I will remove it. >> Removed PS/2 mouse. Included MSDOS for mounting floppies. >> What about apic? >> > > VPN over 56k maybe? You're going to be very unhappy trying to use a > 486 for a VPN at anything approximating a sane data-rate, even more > so if you are short of RAM and dug into swap under normal operation. > Oh I don't care, I'm happy with my hardware router. Fucks up only ~every month. Experience with old hardware & FreeBSD... Minimal kernel + VPN prog needs more RAM than 8MB?