From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 9 20:58:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (spoon.beta.com [199.165.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0712D37B401; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8A3wbs00656; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 23:58:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200109100358.f8A3wbs00656@spoon.beta.com> To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4-RC4 sysinstall bumps... Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 23:58:36 -0400 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok. Couple of quick issues that are cosmetic over functional, but they'll probably cause some confusion. 1.) In the system console configuration menu, you can't pick two items. So, basically, you can't set the screen saver AND the timeout without going down in to that menu twice. Thats kind of lame. 2.) In the partition menus and label menus, the disks are listed backwards. (ie - ad1 before ad0). This will bite you if you're not paying attention, and assume that the first disk is the boot disk, and put your boot partition there. This will probably cause a bunch of mail to -questions along the lines of "I installed, but why won't it boot?". 3.) Someone should run an intuitiveness check through the menus. In particular, the partition menu is bad. Once you partition the disks, the only way out is to select "Cancel". "Cancel" in my mind means (at worst) to abort the installation, and at best, to abort the partitioning. In addition, the text in the menu, "Use [TAB] to get to the buttons and leave this menu" don't exactly tell you which button is for getting out. I see this generating a lot of mail to -questions along the lines of "I partitioned my disk, but how do I get out and continue the install?". I realize these are pretty simply issues, but if you scare a novice user, or screw up someone who is in a hurry, you'll feel it. Even the last set of changes to sysinstall that moved menus, changed keystrokes, and altered defaults screwed me up for a couple of months, and I was doing > 10 installs a day. You get in to a rhythm of TAB, TAB, downarrow, enter, space, downarrow, tab, value, x,x,x.... (This reminds me of YellowBeard's "Crawl, Crawl, Roll, Stagger, Roll..., but I digress)... Otherwise, once installed, it looks pretty healthy, although I haven't played with vinum or sound yet ;) -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message