From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 21 05:26:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086B216A419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B0513C45D for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so2031089nfb for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:26:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vKfolpY6CIsYItzbTF7xTQ1Zg7GYjbwHTOXDtDMEe14=; b=qVrXQ7hPhzlI+yyTyGUXGGK1YO/E5kY91ZIfHmz93/zkpDWdUfzhct8ak75BgLKQvYGrxtzonBxyrsPWl4ihxpoU/vqbOXHEA4omQrAvaIFBFXdtRV5fiARiV/oD1AYBrrPm8KERumz7rIHXKKoqjfQMFDsxfAJrgvLBR2zu1V8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=Covy6j5x9Xj0TCAnTC0pHAt9kWRqfHyxxNgcs8s2l6W4sdA0N4pD+F8Buyj2ex/nHMqKZz+2x5LIvYDOYAdqMFZ666uYFAy3z99Ll0sI9ephrYepHKLLohAPGve361Keq/0l9XgMIGcuQsnYIbpsmVZuwslRnHmvXnEQrh9kXIo= Received: by 10.86.58.3 with SMTP id g3mr6974648fga.1195622811235; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.100.2? ( [89.176.79.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c14sm8956923nfi.2007.11.20.21.26.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:26:50 -0800 (PST) From: Michal Varga To: Jeff Roberson In-Reply-To: <20071120140752.C884@192.168.1.107> References: <20071120141403.GE81260@comp.chem.msu.su> <4743342A.10507@FreeBSD.org> <20071120140752.C884@192.168.1.107> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Stonehenge Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:21:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1195622463.53690.43.camel@xenon.stonehenge.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Yar Tikhiy , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCHED_ULE & niceness / rtprio X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:26:53 -0000 On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 14:08 -1000, Jeff Roberson wrote: > I definitely knew about problems with positively niced tasks. I had not > heard about the negative nice problems. This is my top priority as far as > opensource goes. I've been unfortunately busy with other things however. > I hope to get to this soon. > > Thanks, > Jeff > Just for the record, I have one user here claiming the same symptoms. His description exactly matches that of Yar Tikhiy, sound popping when switching windows in Gnome, clicking url in browser, etc. But there are few diferences: - Switching ULE for 4BSD does nothing for him, he says the sound jerkiness is still there, unchanged. - He didn't play manually with any particular niceness, everything running in default priorities. I let him test sound in totem, audacious (with various buffer sizes), then mplayer from console, without GUI.. No difference, sound pausing in every one. Another problem I see is that he is using the *exact* custom built and tuned FreeBSD configuration that I've deployed on a number of other machines and I just can't replicate any of the symptoms. From and old Pentium 3, through x86 Athlons, dual core AMD64 (with either smp or up kernel), some sort of Sempron+nforce3 - there is no single other place I'm aware of that this happens, only this particular guys hardware. Did you guys with the symptoms tried to cross-check your hardware lists to see if you don't have something in common? m. -- Michal Varga Stonehenge