Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:32:31 -0700 From: Graham North <northg@shaw.ca> To: questions freebsd <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, micahjon@wave.com Subject: [Fwd: Re: i386 on AMD64 architecture] Message-ID: <4337257F.6090206@shaw.ca>
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--=======AVGMAIL-4337257F7B6F======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: i386 on AMD64 architecture Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:10:35 -0700 From: Graham North <northg@shaw.ca> To: Micah <micahjon@ywave.com> References: <433705B5.4020004@shaw.ca> <43370B4B.8090501@ywave.com> <43370D4F.8040008@shaw.ca> <433718AF.10109@ywave.com> Thanks again. Graphics is not a priority for my desktop applications - as long as it has something reasonable for desktop apps. I am also happy to use a standalone NIC for the time being (and have a spare:--)) I am in the due diligence mode for the hardware at the moment. It is actually tough finding what I want because ideally my preference would be an matx form factor to fit in a small case. All the matx boards which I have looked at so far seem to have k8m800 Northbridge which does not seem to be well supported in BSD - somebody please put me right if I am wrong..!! or else nvidia, or sis760 - none of these seem to be solid with BSD. So that leaves the k8T800 or K8T890. If someone knows of a good 754 or 939 micro atx board which works well on Freebsd then please let me know. I am choosing the 64 architecture because later in its life I hope to retire this board to a light duty server and would like the Cool 'n Quiet features of the A64 architecture. Graham/ Micah wrote: > > > Graham North wrote: > >> Thanks Micah! >> >> Which version of FBSD are you using? Your choice of MB looks pretty >> solid. Can you recommend a good, supported (and cheap) video card >> as the A8V-E does not seem to have video. >> Thanks again, Graham/ >> > > I'm using 5.4-RELEASE-p7 for the i386 install and 5.4-RELEASE for the > AMD64 install. As for video, no particular recommendation. I have an > ATI X300 SE by MSI. It's a cheap ($60) PCI-EX card. Unfortunately it > has no graphics acceleration under FreeBSD/XORG so I might as well > have bought a cheaper PCI card. :) Other caveats: I've read that the > onboard NIC isn't compatible yet and I haven't tried the onboard wifi > or sata since I don't have any equipment to test them with. I saw > some messages in one of the freebsd lists that indicates /someone/ is > working on the NIC though. > > Later, > Micah > > >> Micah wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Graham North wrote: >>> >>>> It is my understanding that the AMD 64 family supports 32-bit i386 >>>> code completely...can someone confirm this. >>>> >>>> I would like to stay with 32 bit for the time being but run it on a >>>> new MB using an AMD64 architecture. Should I therefore be simply >>>> installing an i386 iso as though it is on an Intel machine? Will >>>> the i386 iso then have full support for AMD specific drivers such >>>> as the k8t800? I noticed from this link >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html THAT the >>>> the VIA K8T800 and K8T890 seem to be reasonably supported whereas >>>> not many other current AMD Northbridges are (note however that >>>> this support is for AMD64 iso). >>>> >>>> Any pearls of wisdom much appreciated. No I do not wish to install >>>> as 64 bit at this time... >>>> Thanks, Graham/ >>>> >>> >>> You'll probably get a lot of responses on this one. I'm currently >>> running the i386 FreeBSD on an Ahtlon 64 as my desktop. I also have >>> the 64 bit installed on a seperate partition to experiment with. I >>> have an A8V-E mobo that has the K8T890. Works just fine except an >>> occasional glitch while booting freezes the system. I've read it's >>> an ACPI thing, but since I rarely reboot I've not bothered to >>> disable ACPI. >>> >>> Later, >>> Micah >>> >>> > > -- Kindness can be infectious - try it. Graham North Vancouver, BC www.soleado.ca -- Kindness can be infectious - try it. Graham North Vancouver, BC www.soleado.ca --=======AVGMAIL-4337257F7B6F======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "AVG certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 9/23/2005 --=======AVGMAIL-4337257F7B6F=======--
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