From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 31 23:43:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44CF1065670; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 23:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rocky@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A038FC0C; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 23:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3AC205C24; Sun, 1 Jan 2012 09:55:38 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4EFF9D46.3090501@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 09:39:50 +1000 From: R Skinner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Marcus Clarke References: <4EF9776D.3090500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <87sjk4zmpb.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> <4EFBC04B.5080203@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EFD1FA6.40801@freebsd.org> <4EFD31A6.7050205@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EFD4FE9.70109@freebsd.org> <4EFD91F4.5060807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EFDE4BA.9060009@freebsd.org> <4EFE441E.3080700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EFE472C.8090304@freebsd.org> <4EFE4C76.8010002@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EFF2F36.6080706@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4EFF2F36.6080706@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk volumes under "places" in file manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 23:43:11 -0000 On 01/01/12 01:50, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On 12/30/11 6:42 PM, R Skinner wrote: >> I don't know either. I'll have a look at the date it was published and >> see how far off they are from completion. I only asked because *if* it >> is coming then my own project would be pointless to pursue on any large >> scale, only as a bandaid solution until its arrival. Also depending on >> what FreeBSD policy will be on how it will be implemented. > Not sure what you're working on, but there is always a need to improve > the way GNOME integrates with FreeBSD. I'm sure no one would be opposed > to someone taking a serious look at obsoleting hal on FreeBSD. A port > of the various udev-based libraries from Linux would be nice (upower is > done), but anything that accomplishes easy automounting and volume > management would be a good start. My intention is not to port udev system, but to leverage the devd system (which I believe it is based on anyway- just in userspace) which is more complete and already working within the FreeBSD system. From what I have read I don't believe dbus is going anywhere, so I don't see it as impossible using this system (as long as I can figure out how to use dbus :) ). I was intending only to help the mounting system, but it does appear this is getting bigger than Ben Hur. Once I figure out a reasonable method for disks it should be a simple procedure to get acpi and what not to work as well. My aim is to use what facilities FreeBSD has to attain what linux has done, and possibly assist even console users. I use Icewm, so I wasn't entirely interested in Gnome support, but it appears they're related in the backend and the file managers seem to be Gnome based. Kde should be only an extension of this. And as I mentioned, if this is where the gtk developers hang out at FreeBSD then I'd better subscribe so I'm plugged in :) Cheers