From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 28 23:51:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11CAE89689 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com) Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-11.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-11.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A09B7216F for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([81.97.232.230]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id Uhv1eNq5bMzvjUhv1eQF6u; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:48:59 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [81.97.232.230] X-Authenticated-User: X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.2 cv=M609E24s c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=obylDaYnIsVqxbenyIBF4Q==:117 a=obylDaYnIsVqxbenyIBF4Q==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=ocR9PWop10UA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=kC5XCjNUAAAA:8 a=iVD6R4xZAAAA:8 a=5l4X1vu6py5dhS5auckA:9 a=W_3p_E_QPL76wwDh:21 a=EKRYvQu0KI1AqJsN:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=wW_WBVUImv98JQXhvVPZ:22 a=89ZGvdw6miHIuIUErJpX:22 a=ChcFUjjp0OHU96SPM-94:22 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3071A41BA4; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:48:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:48:59 +0000 From: Ken Moffat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Poor default fonts in Firefox Message-ID: <20171228234859.GA21739@milliways.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfPn9Z1MKnQAuocJo5nHykmdarwlzmwpVHnQJbXZLNu3dCMA9ZMylXFbjufH9aTCBDi60ILGdS5Qt3ZWF2n7LiD0uSN6gIrNEjkWeS+nTtZ2yvdajYEku 3jx6xuDJbnYO/GaD7k9rEmJx0Edi9j3nKN1kQHYMFpAGmBt1LXmrMSU54qZOp0MB2T7RzkYVTlTeaJDiaXAhaC8X7+SgSxagUCw= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:51:40 -0000 ----- Forwarded message from Ken Moffat ----- Whoops, forgot to copy to the list. Christian, sorry for the duplicate. Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:02:55 +0000 From: Ken Moffat To: Christian Weisgerber Subject: Re: Poor default fonts in Firefox User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 08:14:23PM -0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2017-12-27, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > I have a normal ports installation and the above page renders fine. > > Can you please post somewhere a screen of your FF. > > http://shell.uugrn.org/~naddy/bbcnews.xwd.xz > It doesn't look bad here, a little feint in the white-on-red menu items along the top, and similarly in the Sans text. But my current local version is similar. If you download the current page you will see that it includes https://nav.files.bbci.co.uk/orbit/1.0.0-571.15b54a4/css/orb-ltr.min.css which uses some BBCReith fonts (Sans and Serif) and these are woff2 fonts, so for everything using those fonts you will get the official fonts if you allow the page to use them (ISTR somebody mentioned overriding that). If you don't let firefox use them, then I assume you will get whatever you have set as the fonts in firefox's preferences. If those are merely Sans and Serif then fc-match will tell you what it is using. ĸen -- Truth, in front of her huge walk-in wardrobe, selected black leather boots with stiletto heels for such a barefaced truth. - Unseen Academicals ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Truth, in front of her huge walk-in wardrobe, selected black leather boots with stiletto heels for such a barefaced truth. - Unseen Academicals