Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:15:55 -0800 From: "Duke Normandin" <01031149@3web.net> To: "Greg Lehey" <grog@lemis.com> Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Programmers' editor? Message-ID: <000801bf370c$decd6080$c29bc5d1@01031149>
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Hi Greg... [you said...] OK, I've said my piece here, and I disagree entirely. But it's not up to me; I've been using Emacs and similar editors for 20 years. The real question is: what do newbies think? Anybody want to comment? [now here's my 0.2....] I've broken the *nix ice --- with an old version of Linux Slackware. Nothing fancy -- no X. I've got freaking "broken pipes" ; can't get the printer going; "less"ing every frigging thing that I see; and "man"ed the whole bloody fs. OK -- so I'm going uphill! Be-that-as-it-may, IMHO, the last thing a newbie with a throbbing headache, pissed off and zero patience left, needs is to launch himself straight hell with vi or vim or jove. Then i discovered joe --- no screaming hell, but friendlier, cuz now I have a help menu at the top so that i can at least exit in 10 seconds, instead of hitting every key/key-combo. Now please, folks don't take offense -- vi/vim, emacs et al are all probably great for you guys with all that experience. Bottom line for a simple, effective, newbie text-editor --- something like joe or DOS edit. I'm in; I'm out --bingo, bango "printcap" is modified and my bald-spot is no wider. Printer still doesn't work -- but what the hell. Note: -- I used the above -- out-dated software notwithstanding -- merely to make my point. Once I learn enough *nix, I'll install FBSD and will most likely be pleasantly surprised - and won't be such a pain-in-the-d'ariel - oops- I mean derriere! I'm outta here --- back to man setterm -- I hate white-on-black. I fell like I'm in a funeral parlor :-) BTW, Greg -- thanks for your comments/suggestions re FBSD UGs! later......duke -duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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