From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Nov 18 11:59:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F8115079 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:59:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09271 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:59:39 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id UAA64568 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:59:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B6515688 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:20:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA23391; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:23:25 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:23:25 +1100 From: John Birrell To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: John Birrell , arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cross compilation goals. Message-ID: <19991119062325.H13376@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> References: <19991117184034.A53402@dragon.nuxi.com>, <199911180559.WAA21245@harmony.village.org> <3833C40B.EC5290CF@scc.nl> <19991118212234.E13376@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> <3833EFE2.A6D975F2@scc.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <3833EFE2.A6D975F2@scc.nl>; from Marcel Moolenaar on Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 01:24:02PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 01:24:02PM +0100, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > I don't understand you. You duplicate the entire /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc > tree for each architecture you want to be able to build a cross-compiler > for and still claim you *avoid* bloat? It's only a very simple set of makefiles that are in separate directories so that an obj dir gets created when the code is built. > I don't think that's wise. We clearly have conflicting opinions on the > matter of how and where to provide cross-compilation toolsets. I want to > postpone that discussion until after we have secured our upgrade path. I'll come back next year then. > John, I think I understand your situation, at least I hope I do. Your > personal situation is just what it is: your personal situation. I must > admit, it really sound like a sub-optimal, hard-to-deal-with, > bloody-irritating and not-so-pleasant-at-all kind of situation. But (you > felt it coming :-), I don't think your situation is important enough to > others and FreeBSD at large that we should adopt FreeBSD to it. The best > thing we can do (IMO) is make your life easier by making ports of all > those tools so that you (and others) can install (and deinstall) them > with more ease than ever possible than if they were in the source tree. > What I'm saying is this: Don't let your personal situation > (frustration?) influence your good judgement. Sigh. Your mail is the first "resistance" I've had about doing this. It's not something that has just appeared over night. I can keep this stuff local, though. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ john.birrell@cai.com john.birrell@opendirectory.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message