From nobody Tue Sep 19 11:01:52 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rqdyr294bz4tmWf for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 11:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mail.evolve.de (mail.evolve.de [213.239.217.29]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.evolve.de", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rqdyq5Rt3z3fhS; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 11:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 85592886; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 11:01:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=grem.de; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to :date:cc:message-id:references:to; s=20180501; bh=l/mr2TxtFElypL MfuUNHGBB6Pzs=; b=Ujd9Ap7+F9QkwY5gesFNpFQ9Vwmhwx5SAqL5BVVgm6+tTz Dwjv5klRHAsdNoPejuQ5i28mMQ39/YQb6n8jJszi+SQoHaCAtX1+6Q0RfXVjwG3o l9U/Vm/Bik+RJLuyDQhI91TqrVQebtzgYiTXEQ+cQ3PP7DtT7ZM6Gy7CpABz1nXG /w+lIQYsZqbz/e7uyTPcmJsESk+VjYavhh9l5ZtRD1pKBN12BycnleJ9C8N9oIDh eaddfnuWs0KlIPhwqg59xOTV7rjVXK2ZXGfWoFbOqdUYz7ecRe5YgyZzRi3shtIZ Ziy/qqIOANPpaoyArYN3uCFZkRaaLTBTQGygoNyg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=grem.de; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to :date:cc:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s=20180501; b=bwFI6e35 0/7892CDywbpsMipyqGqNsIC/YUA5ej5YVt2rQsPaKH+/kPfbKugY8YMBERgbp7C Sn+DhIW96GN/rrf6z2nTMLNJxRmbppf2qWJ35nrZm+WTfdxng7BmNcOs7vN8ejkX DD1ambD3iFjF/NwzI9yPNyYsihlqr8kE9sbtr+QMswCByGI3tNNMRPXT1csJb9Sg zbnWAwuN3KNaVOwlipYWZjioBXE4JB5MXg+YDHUalBgm9+TIk2oPuwdIplDyxPdn TcPQuXYnp8WtAw/zHhCFOrql6NyyqZC/RQFcdJbZtCZbMJpEfrGtQPyq1dIVF82g o9WsQWVaAC3w3g== Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 62aac99b (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 19 Sep 2023 11:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5F81B803-A581-49C0-94C3-CB3DFA947455 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: changes to ps -d? From: Michael Gmelin In-Reply-To: <925097787.3785.1695119378729@localhost> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 13:01:52 +0200 Cc: pstef@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-Id: <634385E4-6E9A-410F-9BDC-2E2B97A8C46F@grem.de> References: <925097787.3785.1695119378729@localhost> To: Ronald Klop X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20G81) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:213.239.192.0/18, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rqdyq5Rt3z3fhS --Apple-Mail-5F81B803-A581-49C0-94C3-CB3DFA947455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On 19. Sep 2023, at 12:30, Ronald Klop wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFHi, >=20 > In current the way ps -p works has been changed [1]. > I could use "ps axd -p " to see the process tree of some ongoing task= . > In current this has changed to always need an extra option "ps axd -p -D down". Can this become the default again? At least when -d is used. >=20 There was a discussion on the FreeBSD-current mailing list that lead to the d= ecision to make this change: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2023-July/004071.html Best --Apple-Mail-5F81B803-A581-49C0-94C3-CB3DFA947455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 19. Sep 2023, at 12:30, Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> wrote:<= br>
=EF=BB=BF= Hi,

In current the way ps -p works has been changed [1].
I could use "ps axd -p <pid>" to see the process tree of some ongoing t= ask.
In current this has changed to always need an extra option "ps axd -p <pi= d> -D down". Can this become the default again? At least when -d is used.=


There was a discussion on the Fre= eBSD-current mailing list that lead to the decision to make this change:


Best

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