From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 01:02:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44A016A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:02:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vhost109.his.com (vhost109.his.com [216.194.225.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913AD43D46 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:02:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@stop.mail-abuse.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (localhost.his.com [127.0.0.1]) by vhost109.his.com (8.12.11/8.12.3) with ESMTP id iB1124dO077399; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:02:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brad@stop.mail-abuse.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20041130162403.567a4e39.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> References: <20041129024602.GA23324@turingmachine.mentalsiege.net> <1101748454.41ab58e61eb88@imp2-q.free.fr> <1101788709.41abf62519b57@imp2-q.free.fr> <20041130002603.692153b7.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> <20041130145130.0aa893f1.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> <20041130230214.GA39964@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041130162403.567a4e39.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:59:58 +0100 To: Chris Pressey From: Brad Knowles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The beastie boot menu. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:02:09 -0000 At 4:24 PM -0800 2004-11-30, Chris Pressey wrote: > And while I have not conducted a formal study, I've seen backouts and > backout requests appear far more frequently on the FreeBSD CVS list than > on any of the other BSD CVS lists I've followed. That could simply be because FreeBSD is the biggest BSD project. You see more crime in New York City than you do in Norman Oklahoma. Most of that is due to the fact that NYC proper has something like eight million people living there, while the population of Norman is just under 100,000, when all the University students are in town and attending classes. > Now you might say, well FreeBSD only has more backouts because FreeBSD > has so many more developers and so much more activity. Indeed, I did say just that. > That's almost > certainly true. But that's even *more* of a reason to have a cohesive > philosophy communicated clearly to the entire project, otherwise the > amount of toe-stepping will become unmanageable. The number of backouts is not necessarily an indicator of a lack of clarity on the overall project philosophy. Again, I see no lack of clarity, I see no confusion, and I see no floundering. I am left seriously wondering just what the heck it is that you're going on and on about. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info.