From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 11 17: 1:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2A837B5C9; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:01:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.138]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:02:15 -0700 Message-ID: <39442834.F70AE453@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:00:52 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Worst case swapping. References: <14660.3153.658226.142964@trooper.velocet.net> <200006112220.PAA29235@apollo.backplane.com> <14660.4950.94654.399889@trooper.velocet.net> <200006112246.PAA29392@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :Believe me, I look at these things. Yes there is a lot going on and a > :lot using memory. I normally have about 20% to 25% of my Gig of swap > :used... meaning that I have allocated roughly double my RAM in > :applications. > : > :And when this worst-case happens, memory is full... but the only > :active application is Netscape. > : > :On my home machine, the same thing tends to happen. It only has 128M > :and vastly fewer things going on. I see cases were I'm surfing for > :20-30 minutes and I will hit this 10 to 30 second (longer, becase the > :swap at home is slower) gap in netscape response. > : > :The only other applications running would be something like a small > :UUCP transfer or a small amount of NFS traffic when the wife's > :(diskless) machine changes screensavers. > : > :Dave. > > Hmm. How large a memory-cache do you have configured for netscape? > Disk cache? What is the RSS and VSZ of the netscape binary while > the paging is going on? Please post a ps axl of the state of the system > while the paging is going on. Netscape reallys goes to pot in a hurry if you allow it to use more than 1-2MB of memory cache. A friend was seeing a terrible response and tracked it back to Netscape's memory cache. He had a lot of memory and started out with something on the order of 16MB. By the time he was satisfied he was allowing less than ~2MB of memory cache, which is all I had ever allowed it to use. I seem to remember an affect on how much disk cache but that part of the memory has evaporated. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message