From owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 22:59:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EA81135D55; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B331F7D581; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E4A14860; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wADMxirQ004237 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:59:44 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id wADMxieR004236; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:59:44 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Warner Losh cc: Alan Somers , FreeBSD FS , FreeBSD Current , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Hole-punching, TRIM, etc In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4234.1542149984.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:59:44 +0000 Message-ID: <4235.1542149984@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B331F7D581 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.71 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.17)[-0.173,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.08)[0.076,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.48)[-0.481,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: phk.freebsd.dk]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: EU(-0.00)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:59:46 -0000 -------- In message , Warner Losh writes: >On a raw device it would be translated into a BIO_DELETE command directly= , >correct? We already have ioctl(DIOCGDELETE) for that. newfs(8) uses it. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .