Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 15:27:20 -0700 From: "xavian anderson macpherson" <professional3d@home.com> To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: installation woes Message-ID: <001101c03952$94b909b0$40461418@24.20.70.64>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] hey julian, (from the CNET help.com freebsd postings) i too had alot of difficulty installing freebsd. the reason i found to be, was my soundblaster 16 scsi card. i need the driver for this card if one exists (and one also for windows NT [the scsi works but not the sound] as you'll read below). my cd is controlled by this card, as is the 540MB quantum drive which i used exclusively for swap space in linux. it seems (check the handbook if you have the power-pak) that freebsd doesn't handle multifunction cards. something that i find very ludicrous, considering it's claim to be the ultimate internet OS. anyway, i finally got around this by accident. initially i thought that i would install my apps from cd using the boot disks, and then go back and resolve the conflicts with the irq's for my ethernet card (there was a conflict between it and something that i thought was the driver that would control the pci-bus. that driver turns out to be the one for the pcmcia bus which i don't have. the only thing that differentiates them is a single `c';pci0 vs. pcic0. so i eliminated the pcic0.) it turns out that i had to install directly from the web. the installation went smoothly once i got past all the other trouble. so my answer is, if you have access to the internet, all you need to do is make the kern.flp and mfsroot.flp (DONT USE THE 5.0-CURRENT FLOPPY IMAGES. it seems that the sites don't support the installation of those images.) go through the motions of setting up your slices and the filesystems mounted to them. once that it done, select your ports and/or sources and start the downloads. i have a 10Mbit/sec cable modem. and i found that ftp2 for the us is the fastest. none of the others would take advantage of my high download speed. although, i did have repeated errors with that site when i tried to reinstall XFREE86. that software may simply not have been available at the time i tried. i have not run freebsd since i installed it (because of XFREE86 not working after i installed version-4.0 after already having version-3.3.36. that's why i tried to reinstall XFREE86) i went out and brought Windows NT; because i realize that any operating system that doesn't even come with it's own boot floppies in the packaging, thereby requiring you to have another operating system to make copies of it's boot floppies, doesn't have the right to be treated as anything other than an application of the system you used to make the the floppies! i am impressed with the fact that NT will allow me to run other OS's concurrently. let freebsd do that, and then those folks can talk about superiority. they can't even make their own floppies! if you know how to boot freebsd inside of NT, i would appreciate hearing from you. also i need to know how to read the data on my freebsd slice(s) from windows NT. GOOD LUCK! tell me how it works. Julian King wrote: > > > I have done a trawl of Deja and of the FreeBSD website, and I cannot > see how it might be possible to do an automated install of FreeBSD, > well at least not without rewriting chunks of the install floppies. > > Is this a reasonable assessment of the situation, or have I missed > something? If I've missed something then pointers would be appreciated, > if I've not missed something and you happen to know, then pointers on > how to create a default boot floppy (I mean from basics, not from the > image) would be good - I've looked at the mfsroot filesystem and > it currently doesn't look too friendly :-( > > I would be most dissappointed if FreeBSD doesn't have something even as > good as Kickstart or Jumpstart... > > Julian > -- > Julian King | There once was a limerick .sig | My opinions, all > Computer Officer | that really was not very big | mine. You can't > University of Cambridge | It was going quite fine | have them! > Unix Support | Till it reached the fourth line | P.S. It's a joke [-- Attachment #2 --] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hey julian, (from the CNET help.com freebsd postings)</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i too had alot of difficulty installing freebsd. the reason i found to be, was my soundblaster 16 scsi card. i need the driver for this card if one exists (and one also for windows NT [the scsi works but not the sound] as you'll read below). my cd is controlled by this card, as is the 540MB quantum drive which i used exclusively for swap space in linux. it seems (check the handbook if you have the power-pak) that freebsd doesn't handle multifunction cards. something that i find very ludicrous, considering it's claim to be the ultimate internet OS. anyway, i finally got around this by accident. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>initially i thought that i would install my apps from cd using the boot disks, and then go back and resolve the conflicts with the irq's for my ethernet card (there was a conflict between it and something that i thought was the driver that would control the pci-bus. that driver turns out to be the one for the pcmcia bus which i don't have. the only thing that differentiates them is a single `c';pci0 vs. pcic0. so i eliminated the pcic0.) it turns out that i had to install directly from the web. the installation went smoothly once i got past all the other trouble.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so my answer is, if you have access to the internet, all you need to do is make the kern.flp and mfsroot.flp (DONT USE THE 5.0-CURRENT FLOPPY IMAGES. it seems that the sites don't support the installation of those images.) go through the motions of setting up your slices and the filesystems mounted to them. once that it done, select your ports and/or sources and start the downloads. i have a 10Mbit/sec cable modem. and i found that ftp2 for the us is the fastest. none of the others would take advantage of my high download speed. although, i did have repeated errors with that site when i tried to reinstall XFREE86. that software may simply not have been available at the time i tried.<BR> <BR>i have not run freebsd since i installed it (because of XFREE86 not working after i installed version-4.0 after already having version-3.3.36. that's why i tried to reinstall XFREE86) i went out and brought Windows NT; because i realize that any operating system that doesn't even come with it's own boot floppies in the packaging, thereby requiring you to have another operating system to make copies of it's boot floppies, doesn't have the right to be treated as anything other than an application of the system you used to make the the floppies! i am impressed with the fact that NT will allow me to run other OS's concurrently. let freebsd do that, and then those folks can talk about superiority. they can't even make their own floppies! if you know how to boot freebsd inside of NT, i would appreciate hearing from you. also i need to know how to read the data on my freebsd slice(s) from windows NT.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>GOOD LUCK! tell me how it works.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Julian King wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I have done a trawl of Deja and of the FreeBSD website, and I cannot<BR>> see how it might be possible to do an automated install of FreeBSD,<BR>> well at least not without rewriting chunks of the install floppies.<BR>> <BR>> Is this a reasonable assessment of the situation, or have I missed<BR>> something? If I've missed something then pointers would be appreciated,<BR>> if I've not missed something and you happen to know, then pointers on<BR>> how to create a default boot floppy (I mean from basics, not from the<BR>> image) would be good - I've looked at the mfsroot filesystem and<BR>> it currently doesn't look too friendly :-(<BR>> <BR>> I would be most dissappointed if FreeBSD doesn't have something even as<BR>> good as Kickstart or Jumpstart...<BR>> <BR>> Julian<BR>> -- <BR>> Julian King | There once was a limerick .sig | My opinions, all<BR>> Computer Officer | that really was not very big | mine. You can't<BR>> University of Cambridge | It was going quite fine | have them!<BR>> Unix Support | Till it reached the fourth line | P.S. It's a joke<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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