Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 15:27:20 -0700 From: "xavian anderson macpherson" <professional3d@home.com> To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: installation woes Message-ID: <001101c03952$94b909b0$40461418@24.20.70.64>
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C03917.E80497A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey julian, (from the CNET help.com freebsd postings) i too had alot of difficulty installing freebsd. the reason i found to = be, was my soundblaster 16 scsi card. i need the driver for this card = if one exists (and one also for windows NT [the scsi works but not the = sound] as you'll read below). my cd is controlled by this card, as is = the 540MB quantum drive which i used exclusively for swap space in = linux. it seems (check the handbook if you have the power-pak) that = freebsd doesn't handle multifunction cards. something that i find very = ludicrous, considering it's claim to be the ultimate internet OS. = anyway, i finally got around this by accident. =20 initially i thought that i would install my apps from cd using the boot = disks, and then go back and resolve the conflicts with the irq's for my = ethernet card (there was a conflict between it and something that i = thought was the driver that would control the pci-bus. that driver = turns out to be the one for the pcmcia bus which i don't have. the only = thing that differentiates them is a single `c';pci0 vs. pcic0. so i = eliminated the pcic0.) it turns out that i had to install directly from = the web. the installation went smoothly once i got past all the other = trouble. so my answer is, if you have access to the internet, all you need to do = is make the kern.flp and mfsroot.flp (DONT USE THE 5.0-CURRENT FLOPPY = IMAGES. it seems that the sites don't support the installation of those = images.) go through the motions of setting up your slices and the = filesystems mounted to them. once that it done, select your ports = and/or sources and start the downloads. i have a 10Mbit/sec cable = modem. and i found that ftp2 for the us is the fastest. none of the = others would take advantage of my high download speed. although, i did = have repeated errors with that site when i tried to reinstall XFREE86. = that software may simply not have been available at the time i tried. =20 i have not run freebsd since i installed it (because of XFREE86 not = working after i installed version-4.0 after already having = version-3.3.36. that's why i tried to reinstall XFREE86) i went out = and brought Windows NT; because i realize that any operating system that = doesn't even come with it's own boot floppies in the packaging, thereby = requiring you to have another operating system to make copies of it's = boot floppies, doesn't have the right to be treated as anything other = than an application of the system you used to make the the floppies! i = am impressed with the fact that NT will allow me to run other OS's = concurrently. let freebsd do that, and then those folks can talk about = superiority. they can't even make their own floppies! if you know how = to boot freebsd inside of NT, i would appreciate hearing from you. also = i need to know how to read the data on my freebsd slice(s) from windows = NT. GOOD LUCK! tell me how it works. Julian King wrote: >=20 >=20 > I have done a trawl of Deja and of the FreeBSD website, and I cannot > see how it might be possible to do an automated install of FreeBSD, > well at least not without rewriting chunks of the install floppies. >=20 > Is this a reasonable assessment of the situation, or have I missed > something? If I've missed something then pointers would be = appreciated, > if I've not missed something and you happen to know, then pointers on > how to create a default boot floppy (I mean from basics, not from the > image) would be good - I've looked at the mfsroot filesystem and > it currently doesn't look too friendly :-( >=20 > I would be most dissappointed if FreeBSD doesn't have something even = as > good as Kickstart or Jumpstart... >=20 > Julian > --=20 > Julian King | There once was a limerick .sig | My = opinions, all > Computer Officer | that really was not very big | mine. You = can't > University of Cambridge | It was going quite fine | have them! > Unix Support | Till it reached the fourth line | P.S. It's = a joke ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C03917.E80497A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hey julian, (from the CNET = help.com freebsd=20 postings)</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i too had alot of difficulty installing = freebsd. the reason i found to be, was my soundblaster 16 scsi = card. =20 i need the driver for this card if one exists (and one also for windows = NT [the=20 scsi works but not the sound] as you'll read below). my cd is = controlled=20 by this card, as is the 540MB quantum drive which i used exclusively for = swap=20 space in linux. it seems (check the handbook if you have the = power-pak)=20 that freebsd doesn't handle multifunction cards. something that i = find=20 very ludicrous, considering it's claim to be the ultimate internet = OS. =20 anyway, i finally got around this by accident. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>initially i thought that i would = install my apps=20 from cd using the boot disks, and then go back and resolve the conflicts = with=20 the irq's for my ethernet card (there was a conflict between it and = something=20 that i thought was the driver that would control the pci-bus. that = driver=20 turns out to be the one for the pcmcia bus which i don't have. the = only=20 thing that differentiates them is a single `c';pci0 vs. pcic0. so = i=20 eliminated the pcic0.) it turns out that i had to install directly = from=20 the web. the installation went smoothly once i got past all the = other=20 trouble.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so my answer is, if you have access to = the=20 internet, all you need to do is make the kern.flp and mfsroot.flp (DONT = USE THE=20 5.0-CURRENT FLOPPY IMAGES. it seems that the sites don't support = the=20 installation of those images.) go through the motions of setting = up your=20 slices and the filesystems mounted to them. once that it done, = select your=20 ports and/or sources and start the downloads. i have a 10Mbit/sec = cable=20 modem. and i found that ftp2 for the us is the fastest. none = of the=20 others would take advantage of my high download speed. although, i = did=20 have repeated errors with that site when i tried to reinstall = XFREE86. =20 that software may simply not have been available at the time i = tried.<BR> =20 <BR>i have not run freebsd since i installed it (because of XFREE86 not = working=20 after i installed version-4.0 after already having version-3.3.36. = that's=20 why i tried to reinstall XFREE86) i went out and brought Windows = NT;=20 because i realize that any operating system that doesn't even come with = it's own=20 boot floppies in the packaging, thereby requiring you to have another = operating=20 system to make copies of it's boot floppies, doesn't have the right to = be=20 treated as anything other than an application of the system you used to = make the=20 the floppies! i am impressed with the fact that NT will allow me = to run=20 other OS's concurrently. let freebsd do that, and then those folks = can=20 talk about superiority. they can't even make their own = floppies! if=20 you know how to boot freebsd inside of NT, i would appreciate hearing = from=20 you. also i need to know how to read the data on my freebsd = slice(s) from=20 windows NT.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GOOD LUCK! tell me how it = works.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Julian King wrote:<BR>> <BR>> = <BR>> I have=20 done a trawl of Deja and of the FreeBSD website, and I cannot<BR>> = see how it=20 might be possible to do an automated install of FreeBSD,<BR>> well at = least=20 not without rewriting chunks of the install floppies.<BR>> <BR>> = Is this a=20 reasonable assessment of the situation, or have I missed<BR>>=20 something? If I've missed something then pointers would be=20 appreciated,<BR>> if I've not missed something and you happen to = know, then=20 pointers on<BR>> how to create a default boot floppy (I mean from = basics, not=20 from the<BR>> image) would be good - I've looked at the mfsroot = filesystem=20 and<BR>> it currently doesn't look too friendly :-(<BR>> = <BR>> I=20 would be most dissappointed if FreeBSD doesn't have something even = as<BR>>=20 good as Kickstart or Jumpstart...<BR>> <BR>> Julian<BR>> -- = <BR>>=20 Julian=20 King &nb= sp; |=20 There once was a limerick .sig | My opinions, all<BR>> Computer = Officer | that really was not = very=20 big | mine. You can't<BR>> University of = Cambridge |=20 It was going quite fine = | have=20 them!<BR>> Unix=20 Support = | Till=20 it reached the fourth line | P.S. It's a = joke<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C03917.E80497A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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