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Date:      Wed, 27 Jan 2021 04:43:53 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
To:        Alex Henrie <alexhenrie24@gmail.com>
Cc:        Bernhard Voelker <mail@bernhard-voelker.de>, Otto Moerbeek <otto@drijf.net>, Coreutils <coreutils@gnu.org>, Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>, Fabrice BAUZAC <noon@mykolab.com>, Juli Mallett <juli@clockworksquid.com>, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, William Ahern <william@25thandclement.com>, Roman Czyborra <roman@czyborra.com>, oshogbo@freebsd.org, tech@openbsd.org, Christian Groessler <chris@groessler.org>, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>, Ed Schouten <ed@nuxi.nl>, Eric Pruitt <eric.pruitt@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: [PATCH v3 (resend)] tee: Add -q, --quiet, --silent option to not write to stdout
Message-ID:  <202101271243.10RChrM2099268@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAMMLpeRsvi%2BGjdn2ypikNrc0uW6K_dqOChasqYJ7Fv%2B_TMuC4g@mail.gmail.com>

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> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 9:04 PM Bernhard Voelker
> <mail@bernhard-voelker.de> wrote:
> >
> > An off-tech argument: ask a local plumber if he'd would ever use
> > a tee piece instead of a pipe end piece.  I guess he would only
> > if he wouldn't have anything else at hand.
> 
> According to POSIX, tee writes to "zero or more files."[1] So the
> "local plumber" analogy already doesn't hold, because a plumber would
> never put in a tee and then immediately cap it off so that the flow

Actually plumbers do this all the time, its a stub out for future
additions/alterations.  There is also a special case of it done
when plumbing air/gas lines called a trap.

> can only go to one place, but commands like `echo foo | tee | tee |
> tee` are already explicitly allowed.
> 
> > A word to the proposed patch: what should happen, if the user does
> > not give a file?
> >   A | B | tee -q
> > The patch just silently ignored that situation which feels wrong.
> 
> Personally, I like the idea of only having to type `echo foo | tee -q`
> instead of `echo foo > /dev/null`, so I think the patch indeed does
> the right thing in that case.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> [1] https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/tee.html
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Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org



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