From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Oct 25 19:11:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E065DC225AE for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1CBE7F for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id CC3F1C225AD; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE02C225AC for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from nmsh3.e.nsc.no (nmsh3.e.nsc.no [193.213.121.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8674E7D; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 19:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from terraplane.org (ti0027a400-1368.bb.online.no [88.88.96.95]) by nmsh3.nsc.no (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id u9PIFXgk014503 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:15:36 +0200 (MEST) Received: from terraplane.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u9PIRVUF060182; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:27:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: (from rumrunner@localhost) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.13.8/Submit) id u9PIRVeA060181; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:27:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rumrunner) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:27:30 +0200 From: Eivind Nicolay Evensen To: Baptiste Daroussin Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12 Message-ID: <20161025182730.GA60030@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> References: <20160911133804.a7j7p3x2viqzcpec@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160911133804.a7j7p3x2viqzcpec@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 19:11:23 -0000 On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > hi, > > For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt > before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD > 12. Whatever the outcome may be and for whatever my opinion is worth, I hope rcs will stay in base. I don't care about the licensing. I don't care if a switch to openrcs happens either, as long as it works. For years, one has been able to rely upon this operating system having certain pieces of software available. Losing that makes it a worse choice than before. I've already had to readd cvs to my freebsd tree since that was removed, but if it keeps getting worse and worse and there's soon a freebsd kernel and some random bits of freebsd userland available through ports, there's not much reason to keep using it as an operating system, because then it is not an operating system anymore, rather an emulation of another "system" built around that concept. Eivind N. E.