From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Feb 25 12: 9:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF0A37B401 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.laserfence.net (apollo.laserfence.net [196.44.69.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4616844225 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@unfoldings.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by apollo.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18nlDQ-000LZh-00; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:58:12 +0200 Received: from prometheus-p0.datel.laserfence.net ([192.168.255.1] helo=prometheus.home.laserfence.net) by apollo.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18nlDC-000LZK-00; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:57:59 +0200 Received: from phoenix.home.laserfence.net ([192.168.0.2]) by prometheus.home.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18nlD7-0003Hc-00; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:57:53 +0200 Received: from will by phoenix.home.laserfence.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18nlD6-0004EU-00; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:57:52 +0200 From: Willie Viljoen To: Rahul Siddharthan Subject: Re: jive (was RE: was this really necessary?) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:57:52 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: chat@freebsd.org References: <20030225145050.F17048@papagena.rockefeller.edu> In-Reply-To: <20030225145050.F17048@papagena.rockefeller.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200302252157.52451.will@unfoldings.net> X-Spam-Score: (/) X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *18nlDC-000LZK-00*gqot98XPyEA* X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020422 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 25 February 2003 21:50, someone, possibly Rahul Siddharthan, typed: > The colonists should realize that they can't just sit back now and > enjoy the fruits of 200 years of entrenched inequality, either: they > need to take the lead in reforming the society (and I understand that > many do, just as many whites were active in the anti-Apartheid > struggle). Failure to do that will lead to a Zimbabwe-like situation > -- which is a result of Britain and the local white community breaking > their promises and failing to implement land reforms for 20 years > after independence. I'm not trying to defend the despicable Mugabe. > But we all hope South Africa will fare much better. Well, given the situation in Zim, I would say we are doing much better, but the point I was making is that people should stop trying to politicize everything, at every oportunity. It's just not productive. Will -- Willie Viljoen Freelance IT Consultant 214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60 +27 51 522 44 36 (after hours) +27 82 404 03 27 (mobile) will@unfoldings.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message