From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 24 14:23:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09003 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:23:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles209.castles.com [208.214.165.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08998 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:23:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01659; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:26:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810242126.OAA01659@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dan Swartzendruber cc: Mike Smith , "Stephen J. Roznowski" , current@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: 3.0 installation problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:51:02 EDT." <3.0.5.32.19981024165102.0095ed30@mail.kersur.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:26:21 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 01:40 PM 10/24/98 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > >> > >> Speaking of irritating installation issues: why do I have to install X > >> to use emacs? I seem to recall, back in my linux days, that there was > >> an emacs executable that didn't require X. The standard emacs binary > >> requires a bunch of non vty libraries that I don't really want to have > >> to install on stripped-down servers. > > > >If the machine is "stripped down", then you sure don't want Emacs on it. > >Try one of the lighter clones, and save yourself the worry. > > I'm not sure I understand your point. These are headless servers. They > run all kinds of server applications, but virtually no user stuff, and > certainly no X apps/libraries. Emacs is handy to have to edit configuration > files and such when one telnets to the machine to make a change. If all you're doing is editing a few configuration files, emacs is overkill. Look at the size of the package, for instance. Emacs is a full-featured editing and develpment system. You need a text editor. If you don't like vi (understandable) there are plenty of editors that look-and-feel like emacs but don't come with the enormous bulk and X dependancies. Use one of these instead; I recommend jove. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message