From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 20 05:51:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26358 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:51:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pandora.hh.kew.com (root@kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.94.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26331 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:51:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from software@kew.com) Received: from sonata.uucp.kew.com (sonata.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.135]) by pandora.hh.kew.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA28325 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from kew.com by sonata.uucp.kew.com (UUPC/extended 1.12y) with UUCP for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:51:34 -0500 Received: from kew.com by sonata.uucp.kew.com (UUPC/extended 1.12y) with ESMTP for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:51:31 -0500 Message-ID: <35127463.6ACB464@kew.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:51:31 -0500 From: Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks, Stoneham, MA 02180 (http://www.kew.com) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-MOENE (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: after the release ... References: <3511B113.2EA6CD5D@kew.com> <19980320104944.02752@follo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Eivind Eklund wrote: > [Drew Derbyshire] > > I would suggest after the release a point release method be > > developed to allow (perhaps as a port type package?) The ability to > > download/apply critical fixes quickly. > > > > Simply put, having to track the entire -stable source to get > > bugfixes on the CD-ROM is not desirable. > > Good suggestion! Go ahead and do it; I promise to post comments about > your design when you post it, and I'm sure Jordan and Mike will, too. Drop dead. You can say it's boring to do and that Real Programmers (TM) don't need it, go ahead, but I don't need the sarcasm. I neither a CVS expert nor directing FreeBSD release policy. I'm only pointing out a failure in the FreeBSD release cycle, as Jordan pointed out HP and Sun have bugs, but THEY have a packaged patch process. FreeBSD does not, it only has "upgrade to the next release" or hand patch any fixes into the source and rebuild. Adding such a patch function seems to be an issue of packaging a limited number of critical changes (in 2.2.5 for example, it would have been the lpd and the security fixes) into a package. Under System V, it would be pkgadd. Under FreeBSD the best method seems to be ports. You can disagree with me, but I don't need to be ridiculed for making a valid suggestion. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message