From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 12 17:20:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9A0106564A for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17A98FC14 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1487451wfg.7 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:20:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7l4NwSatkMx92TY4y0gh1kXMFMYgRpEDyGQXzHwuWiw=; b=R8fHdMQ6vjDv0xtLjyKjAbpUpMdCLkt77u6/TCr8A/2qUYXVKJDzGg4T55iMSYgsVt U27agIE/hlgRfPsi6f97hu2+59GwMpIsPPOfXbkMd9Po935FrbVSWicbJaKXkqzr2HCr PTlFrUIuojYdfGi9za39OW66mrk90PTWKQJ98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Q+nzYp8WSc/zFoE8VttNjR98VXhrpMdngDunq/Pj+dKEkDGLPxJtN4AELSu9XHcZu5 LHiptCgDmwrQMacYC1NwtTNy/cuWgWsvFbYYdedyqP9gEnb1DHEEdtYo6M57DPDcfTut Hgrc1gBnDJjocsT2DLWRs2/h39Z2J+iUJVBSo= Received: by 10.114.154.12 with SMTP id b12mr2876416wae.81.1229102451852; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.94.7 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:20:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:20:51 -0800 From: "Joe S" To: "Roland Smith" In-Reply-To: <20081112120147.GA62386@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200811121259.25046.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <20081112120147.GA62386@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan McKeown Subject: Re: Release schedules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:20:53 -0000 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: >> I've been biting my tongue about this because I'm not sure that I can offer >> any help or useful suggestions, but here goes... >> >> What on earth is going on with release scheduling? > > Two words: volunteer project > > I would propose to do away with the release schedule altogether, or make > it very succinct; > > next release: when it's done. What? Isn't that the Linux kernel schedule? Give me a break. The OpenBSD team of volunteers makes a new release every six months, with target release dates in May and November. I can't recall a slip of even one day. I know, this isn't OpenBSD, but it proves that a regular release schedule is indeed possible. The FreeBSD project continues to grow. I get that. Perhaps some parts of the FreeBSD project are not as organized as they used to be, or perhaps those planning what goes into each release are biting off more than they can chew. So what does it take to make regular releases a goal. Maybe try doing a little less per release? I haven't even looked at the list of what's changed between 7.0 and 7.1. I miss the old FreeBSD.