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Date:      Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:12:00 -0500
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Behavior of select() on pipes
Message-ID:  <20011025161200.N15052@elvis.mu.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1011025155337.73574A-100000@fledge.watson.org>; from rwatson@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 03:56:14PM -0400
References:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1011025155337.73574A-100000@fledge.watson.org>

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* Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> [011025 14:56] wrote:
> 
> Alfred recently pointed me at some FreeBSD pipe behavior that I was
> previously unaware of: select() will always return true regarding the
> readability of a fifo, regardless of whether data is pending on the fifo. 
> He referred to this as "brokenness", which is a diagnosis I tend to
> accept.  However, it turns out to be somewhat more complicated than I
> thought, witnessed by the extensive discussion on freebsd-bugs, and logged
> in PR/19871.  But to the short of it: it sounds to me like we should
> modify the behavior of select() to match the more popular (but possibly
> standards-incompliant) behavior, which allows select to block on the fifo
> until data is ready (found in Solaris, Linux, et al).  Rather than just
> commit the patch, I thought I'd open myself up for broad flamage.
> Comments on what to do are welcome.

If the patch safely brings us into compatibility with both Linux
and Solaris it's a no-brainer, just put it in, however if it
puts FreeBSD into some other 'mode' I think it deserves further
discussion.

-- 
-Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org]
'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology,"
 start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.'
                           http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3

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