From nobody Tue Nov 15 01:30:11 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NB7sH5s3Sz4hPw4; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 01:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NB7sH5Qlpz43Wy; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 01:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1668475811; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=cgAxxRisR0INJYwa5/LIbgSFubV0nvV1/dpJIxk8ukE=; b=ekKpe+gp0iMZ5GuHtuo9dLJBZhHVodhKzpKTo3q98MU6O6PKKlE6mFNjQUX9a7rV/HEVmd pmQtXbOzRiwwBTLjNJwvQlCVBtGmJ/Y5bvdmOQHjibakYhfASX+iESYT8CtzxSiLRW8xNc D/BTxFRI7pnVWolL5OMXE7l8RMuD8LaPws4OT0BmYD/yDOB5YprT10IYCxS/BRNTdB34Ug oGnAqJpUWunkpNZKrBmNzYVdw6ydwjVuKuY5ALgeoM1IqJHA3b+Bdt2A8P1eM5dryidVNO V8Gtrbt9O+hr6stVEjFq1z+CrjlRf8g6d0y3rYQThacK2cO9O/eSgThw5PSI3Q== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1668475811; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=cgAxxRisR0INJYwa5/LIbgSFubV0nvV1/dpJIxk8ukE=; b=ss1PMLR0UyQSx2DT/drZU7aQL0p12srtRJM3yUkcm3v75xy6jEwzH/GWW7A4dxqjpcGxz5 0YcIv59ye6iVej78YrCJe73i27t7ALzrZxzvOgwWwMHITbXoQ3CsL6cSGfvuC5M/0MMXZ/ rJZXnP7Xj5DuCJvinRg4Nw0AKiRQayCS+fviCCMePvkGp5K8dX41QSb+h5lNyOKNLhqYHi /UL2IInqXSyg9AamxX2NZ5n8YpdXNMQB9tp2wbiUMQ2Npcyy39myWck6/71wdRJebJcfNH uoXlvdqCpbbf7I5Csh72B+1sDt0u1TXl8wUnXmKRDCXZ1jKvZqc4zINcoLmG6A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1668475811; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=TDa3apPk1AtPazT37vnnCoTB9Ks6LblZtvlRbUfZesdEUtui6NtIezwsVrc2OI6lCiGsEL EM2CY/KttBD+1rbm9KyGPPjmyvBl9xtPo5Ey1mMLvO0x0l3jeJ/hz4+Wz+/9LpOfUCPJaW siR7DFNk97UztRMr6vgrxjcxYZ+u+a+rGKDI8ki2/XN3XQpb3RDGyb1YO699XMgcpnEOPC kHjhKjVQo7+qpu4jiY6ObzPc3lAuhJNY54nLjDEuigZsPb0edl2vzHGr2D31Eb5yaaC/iG oZXpPNmCtJdPeS20QoX/d6l3jqGfI9rxK0dj1LC+y+swhhd8wKlHRzrIIJQHuA== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id B09361C9F0; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 01:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 01:30:11 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Warner Losh Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: Boot Loader: OFW network booting support Message-ID: References: List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 09:34:25AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > I'd like to drop support for OFW network booting. > > These days, the only OpenFirmware machines are really old Mac G4 and G5 > machines. Nothing else can use it (it used to be shared with sparc64 > machines). Which are still in use. Particularly, Mac mini G4 and Power Mac G5 make good backup/storage boxes and just nice piece of hardware to have around. > So, rather than do a lot of work I can barely test (I might have an old G4 > mac in my dad's old thing), I'm thinking about dropping the support, > especially since I don't think it's been used by anybody in a long time. Netbooting had always been preferred over to flashing optical media due to how easy it is to setup. This is the first option recommended by grehan@ in his guide* and that's how I installed FreeBSD on all my G4/G5 machines. My votes goes to keep it. ./danfe *) https://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/install.html