From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 29 10:46:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E665B10656A4 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FA98FC1E for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o0TAkQx8013535; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:46:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o0TAkPNb013534; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:46:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:46:25 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: "Daniel O'Connor" Message-ID: <20100129104624.GA13472@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Adrian Wontroba References: <20100122162155.GG3917@e-Gitt.NET> <20100123012328.GA3296@swelter.hanley.stade.co.uk> <20100123114209.GA21457@ei.bzerk.org> <201001232244.03752.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201001232244.03752.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:46:32 +0100 (CET) Cc: Ruben de Groot , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0-RELEASE -> -STABLE and size of / X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:46:36 -0000 On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:43:49PM +1030, Daniel O'Connor typed: > On Sat, 23 Jan 2010, Ruben de Groot wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 01:23:28AM +0000, Adrian Wontroba typed: > > > I concur that the 235 MB size of an amd64 8.0 kernel is a bit of a > > > surprise. An i386 kernel is a mere 135 MB. IMO increasing the > > > sysinstall default root slice size for at least amd64 would be a > > > good thing. > > > > To be a little more precise: it's not the >kernel< that is so big. > > It's all the (mostly not needed) modules and symbol files that fill > > up / > > Maybe they could be put somewhere else.. > > I don't think you need them unless remote debugging and in that case you > are multiuser (I would have thought anyway). > > If they went into /usr then /boot could remain slim. But what if you have /usr on a gmirror, glabel, zfs filesystem or any other device that is not compiled in your kernel? Sure you can build a custom kernel, but I would expect a lot of questions, frustrations and footshooting from such a change. I think increasing / (again) would be the least painfull. Ruben