From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 30 8:16: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EAB37B405; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:16:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (caddis.yogotech.com [206.127.123.130]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16437; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:15:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9UGFxs07085; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:15:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15326.53822.743881.437495@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:15:58 -0700 To: Robert Clark Cc: John Baldwin , Terry Lambert , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Nate Williams Subject: Re: time_t not to change size on x86 In-Reply-To: <20011030081253.D36195@darkstar.gte.net> References: <3BDE6ED3.64DC027E@mindspring.com> <20011030081253.D36195@darkstar.gte.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm curious, have any of you tried python? What are your opinions? I haven't, sorry. However, I've heard very good things about it. > I could not get past the fact that if I wrote a program in Java, > I couldn't say so anywhere. Huh? You can certainly say that it's a Java program legally. As a matter of fact, you may *have* to say it's a Java program, to warn the consumer why it's so slow. :) :) Nate > > On 30-Oct-01 Terry Lambert wrote: > > > John Baldwin wrote: > > >> My personal peeve with C++ is that is a growth on teh side of C (although at > > >> this point it's larger than C..) I prefer the way Java lays out code > > >> (functions defined within the class, etc.). Unfortunately, the > > >> implemenetations of Java running around aren't the speediest unless you are > > >> running !FreeBSD. :-/ Granted, speed isn't needed for all things. > > > > > > Java has several problems: > > > > I still prefer it to C++'s problems. :) > > > > > 1) It can't do multiple inheritance > > > > Interfaces are like multiple inheritance of pure abstract classes and are > > simpler to get right. > > > > > 2) You can instance classes without constructing them (the > > > JavaMail API has a number of examples of this) > > > > So? > > > > > 3) Strong typing is for weak minds > > > > Or lazy ones. :) I wouldn't use Java for OS hacking, but for applications, > > strong typing is more useful. > > > > > -- Terry > > > > -- > > > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > > PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc > > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message