From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Nov 18 10:20: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9DE37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C98643E4A for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:20:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E258A2D2A; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:20:04 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:20:04 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Eric Anderson Cc: Brad Knowles , FreeBSD Chat , Mark Murray Subject: Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS? In-Reply-To: <3DD92DB1.5070004@centtech.com> Message-ID: <20021118141458.N23359-100000@hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Eric Anderson wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Eric Anderson wrote: > > > >>We can take this off list if need be, but I'd like to hear from anyone > >>interested in doing this. > > > > > > I've been talking to Eric Moore about my more 'immediate' concerns with > > -STABLE ... I'm going to address that this weekend (changes in the AMR > > driver) and if I can, will get venus back up to -STABLE ... > > > > So I'm definitely willing to provide the real-world, high load testing > > environments, especially if there is going to be some sort of organization > > for handling resolution of crashes ... > > Ok, great. I think that if we have an organized group of people who are > "in charge" of doing testing on the OS, we'll have a lot more weight > when we say there is a bug. > > Plus, we can probably get a few developers to be part of the team, and > aid us in getting things pushed through. I would recommend that a list is created for this that the ability to post to it is restricted to a small group of testers and as many developers as can be convinced to join, and keep the postings to it restricted to *just* crash related ... basically, we want a list that is focused only on crashes, not on build related issues ... personally, my issue with booting the new AMR driver wouldn't even be applicable, but that's a judgement thing ... Basically, it should be a *very* low volume list with a *very* small noise:signal ratio ... so as not to detract from its purpose ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message